Debates between Pat McFadden and Lindsay Hoyle during the 2024 Parliament

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Pat McFadden and Lindsay Hoyle
Thursday 25th July 2024

(1 month, 1 week ago)

Commons Chamber
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Pat McFadden Portrait Pat McFadden
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I assure the hon. Member that we take value for money seriously; it has been a theme of today’s questions. The Government supported businesses during covid—necessarily and rightly—but it is important to ensure the best value for money in such schemes. In the end, it is all taxpayers’ money, so that should have been done. Where that is not the case, and where there has been fraud or waste, we will do our best to recover what was wrongly spent.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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Can we pick up the pace of questions and answers? We are on topicals now. Rachel Hopkins will set a good example.

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Pat McFadden Portrait Pat McFadden
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I welcome the right hon. Member to his position. I mean that genuinely: it is not easy to step up and serve in opposition after an election defeat, so I welcome what he and his colleagues are doing. I echo his praise for the civil service and the Cabinet Office team, who have supported me and my colleagues in the best way in the past few weeks. On the UK biological security strategy, my answer is simple and short: yes.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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Let us keep going in that way.

Oliver Dowden Portrait Sir Oliver Dowden
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I welcome that answer and I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his kind words. An effective strategy must be underpinned by dedicated resources, which is why one of my final acts in the Cabinet Office was to announce that we would ringfence biological security spending across Government. Will he uphold that commitment, so that important resilience spending does not fall victim to day-to-day spending pressures?

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Pat McFadden Portrait Pat McFadden
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We are getting on with our first steps, including on healthcare, which is a top priority for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care. We want to make the NHS fit for the future. We did it before and we can do it again.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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I call the Lib Dem spokesperson.

Christine Jardine Portrait Christine Jardine (Edinburgh West) (LD)
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This summer, we have been celebrating 25 years of devolution in Scotland. In the last Parliament, the Scottish Affairs Committee looked at how the relationship between the UK and Scottish Governments has deteriorated in the past decade and how we can improve it. Does the Minister agree that in the next tranche of devolution, we should look at how to improve relationships with the devolved Administrations and regional authorities? Perhaps we should set up a UK council of Ministers to involve Ministers from all the Administrations and regional mayors.

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Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. We are all on a learning curve, but we do need to ask short, punchy questions. Also, “you” means me, but I am sure that we will not be doing that again.

Pat McFadden Portrait Pat McFadden
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On this, perhaps the simplest thing is for my hon. Friend to write to me, so that I can get her question considered by the proper Minister.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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That completes questions. Before we move to the business questions, I shall let those on the Front Benches leave.

Covid-19 Inquiry

Debate between Pat McFadden and Lindsay Hoyle
Friday 19th July 2024

(1 month, 2 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Pat McFadden Portrait Pat McFadden
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right to pay tribute to the staff at St Thomas’ and other NHS staff across the country, who did so much to care for people during that very difficult period. I have visited the memorial wall in her constituency, and she is right: it is an incredibly moving and human experience. I am very happy to take up her invitation to visit again.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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I call the Lib Dem spokesperson.

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Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. May I just say to the Front Benchers that we are all learning, but we should do so by setting the best example? You are meant to have two minutes, not three. Please can we help each other? Otherwise, I will have Members complaining that they did not get in.

Pat McFadden Portrait Pat McFadden
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I thank the hon. Member for her questions and the spirit in which she asked them. The truth is that it is easy for any of us to say, “Lessons must be learned,” and whenever anything goes wrong, people say that. The proof is in the practice. Will it be shown in practice? That is the ultimate test for us all.

I am happy to confirm to the hon. Member that, just as I said to the Opposition spokesperson, yes, we are happy to work across the aisle on this and to consider suggestions. My colleagues at the Department for Culture, Media and Sport are considering the recommendations on the memorial.