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Department: Department for Education

Oral Answers to Questions

Michelle Donelan Excerpts
Monday 14th March 2022

(2 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Margaret Ferrier Portrait Margaret Ferrier (Rutherglen and Hamilton West) (Ind)
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8. What assessment he has made of the potential impact of changes to student loan requirements on social mobility.

Michelle Donelan Portrait The Minister for Higher and Further Education (Michelle Donelan)
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Our changes mean a fairer deal for students, graduates and the taxpayer, and build on our work to drive up quality so that more young people go on to complete their education and then go on to graduate jobs, delivering real social mobility.

Margaret Ferrier Portrait Margaret Ferrier
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Decreasing eligibility, extending the repayment period and lowering the repayment threshold for student loans will disproportionately impact students from low-income families, and removing education opportunities will impact the trajectories of their lives and careers. What impact assessment has been undertaken on these changes from an equality perspective and how they will stifle student numbers?

Michelle Donelan Portrait Michelle Donelan
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When we published our response to Augar, we also published our impact assessment in full, but at the heart of our plans is fairness, as I have said, for the taxpayer, for students and for graduates. No student will pay back more in real terms than they borrow. This is the Government delivering on our manifesto pledge to cut interest rates.

Matt Western Portrait Matt Western (Warwick and Leamington) (Lab)
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Research by the Higher Education Policy Institute shows that 70% of parents with children aged 11 to 15 want their children to go to university, but the Government do not share their ambitions. Instead, the Minister is proposing minimum entry requirements of a grade 4 in GSCE English and maths to access student finance. About 70% of pupils in England achieve a grade 4 in GSCE English and Maths, but that falls to less than half for those on free school meals. Why is the Minister prepared to sacrifice the aspirations of students and their families, particularly those from disadvantaged backgrounds?

Michelle Donelan Portrait Michelle Donelan
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Once again, this shows the Opposition’s obsession with targets and numbers. We want an education system that delivers for the individual, whether that means going into further education, an apprenticeship or university. We want to ensure that every young person knows that whichever option they pick, it is a high-quality option.

Dan Carden Portrait Dan Carden (Liverpool, Walton) (Lab)
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9. What recent assessment he has made of the availability of specialist support for children with special educational needs and disabilities. [R]

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Andrew Bowie Portrait Andrew Bowie (West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine) (Con)
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13. What steps he is taking to help support young people from deprived backgrounds access higher education.

Michelle Donelan Portrait The Minister for Higher and Further Education (Michelle Donelan)
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We have asked the Office for Students to refocus the access and participation regime on real social mobility by getting students on to courses that they complete and that lead to graduate jobs, not just getting them to the door. We have also committed up to £75 million to a national state scholarship to support high-achieving disadvantaged students.

Andrew Bowie Portrait Andrew Bowie
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In the Secretary of State’s statement on the Augar review last month, he said:

“Access to higher education must be dependent on attainment and ability to succeed, and not inhibited by a student’s background.”—[Official Report, 24 February 2022; Vol. 709, c. 489.]

Will the Minister expand on how the Department will ensure that that is the case, so that we avoid the situation overseen by the Scottish Government where people from a deprived background are now less likely to enter higher education than when they took office?

Michelle Donelan Portrait Michelle Donelan
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Under our Government, disadvantaged 18-year-olds in England are now 82% more likely to go to university than in 2010. We want universities to play an even greater role in improving access for those who are disadvantaged, however, so we are asking them to raise standards in schools and colleges; offer flexible and skills-based courses; tackle drop-out rates; and support students throughout university and on to graduation.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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We have shadow Minister Mr Toby Perkins.

Toby Perkins Portrait Mr Toby Perkins (Chesterfield) (Lab)
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Whether we look at the national tutoring programme, which is failing to reach disadvantaged children; qualification changes that Ofqual admits will hamper progress to HE; the disparaging of university courses with higher numbers of deprived students on them; or the falling apprenticeship numbers, the truth is that this is a “Get back in your place” Government who stand as a barrier to aspiration for deprived students. Does the Minister not realise that the Government have not a shred of credibility on this subject? Their policies are the barrier to working-class aspiration, not the solution.

Michelle Donelan Portrait Michelle Donelan
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It is a desperate time when we have a question such as that from the Opposition, which is not even really a question. The Government are delivering on our manifesto and enhancing quality, and have aspiration at the heart of everything we do.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I think I will decide whether something is in order or not, but thanks for that little lesson for me. Just to say, I do laugh when you talk about policy when the Government have been in power, so I try to balance out the political issues and objections on both sides.

Danny Kruger Portrait Danny Kruger (Devizes) (Con)
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The Higher Education (Freedom of Speech) Bill is one of the most important Bills now before Parliament. When does my right hon. Friend expect the Bill to come back before the House?

Michelle Donelan Portrait Michelle Donelan
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I can inform the House that the Bill will be back in due course, and we can guarantee this Government’s commitment to honour our manifesto pledge to strengthen free speech in our universities, because of how important we believe it to be.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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I call the SNP spokesperson, Carol Monaghan.

Carol Monaghan Portrait Carol Monaghan (Glasgow North West) (SNP)
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According to the Government’s own equality analysis of their reforms to student finance, those likely to see a negative impact, with increased lifetime repayments, include female graduates and those from disadvantaged backgrounds. Male graduates and those from more privileged backgrounds will benefit more than average from the changes. Can the Minister explain why policies that will hinder social mobility and undermine equality of opportunity in higher education have been introduced?

Michelle Donelan Portrait Michelle Donelan
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Fairness is at the heart of our announcement that no student will pay back more in real terms than they borrowed. It is also about rebalancing for the taxpayer, as every pound that is not paid back by a student is paid back by a taxpayer.

Bob Seely Portrait Bob Seely (Isle of Wight) (Con)
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14. What assessment he has made of the potential impact on education outcomes of an education investment area on the Isle of Wight.

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David Evennett Portrait Sir David Evennett (Bexleyheath and Crayford) (Con)
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20. What steps his Department is taking to prioritise improving the quality of higher education.

Michelle Donelan Portrait The Minister for Higher and Further Education (Michelle Donelan)
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For the first time ever, the Office for Students is setting minimum thresholds for completion and for progression rates to graduate jobs. We are also consulting on stopping the uncontrolled growth of low-quality courses.

Claire Coutinho Portrait Claire Coutinho
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The hon. Member for Warwick and Leamington (Matt Western) suggested that it was an injustice to introduce minimum requirements for going to university, but does the Minister agree with me that the greater injustice is that one in five students feels that their course did not add any value to their career? Moreover, the reforms to interest rates will now mean that nobody will pay more than they borrow in real terms.

Michelle Donelan Portrait Michelle Donelan
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right. From September 2023, we are reducing interest rates on student loans to the retail price index only. This, combined with the tuition fee freeze for over seven years, means that students can graduate with up to £11,500 less debt from the off.

David Evennett Portrait Sir David Evennett
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I fully support the idea of minimum eligibility requirements to maintain the high quality of our degrees. However, will my right hon. Friend assure me that students who do not meet those requirements will have alternative routes open and available to them, including via foundation years or college courses, that will allow them to progress subsequently to university when they are ready?

Michelle Donelan Portrait Michelle Donelan
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I agree with my right hon. Friend. Too many young people are pushed on to courses that they are not ready for at the moment, which is why we are capping the cost of foundation years to enable more people to use this as an access route. We are also introducing the lifelong loan entitlement, which will make higher education and higher technical education much more flexible.

Jonathan Gullis Portrait Jonathan Gullis (Stoke-on-Trent North) (Con)
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21. What steps his Department is taking to help ensure political impartiality in schools.

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Margaret Ferrier Portrait Margaret Ferrier (Rutherglen and Hamilton West) (Ind)
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T3. What plans does the Minister have to help enable universities to diversify their international student cohorts, so that they are not reliant on funding from countries such as China?

Michelle Donelan Portrait The Minister for Higher and Further Education (Michelle Donelan)
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We recently updated our international education strategy, and we are proud to be home to so many international students who enrich our culture in our universities and local towns. We have beaten our target many years ahead, which is testament to how dedicated we are to continue to grow our international pool of students.

Lee Anderson Portrait Lee Anderson (Ashfield) (Con)
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T5. Government Front Benchers need not bother visiting Ashfield—I have got two new school rebuilds coming, so they can go somewhere else—but they will be aware of the problems that I have had with Kirkby College, which is a failing school. It is going to be rebuilt, which is fantastic news, but will the Minister please use all his levers to ensure that that happens as quickly as possible?

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Patrick Grady Portrait Patrick Grady (Glasgow North) (SNP)
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T8. Next week, staff at Glasgow University will be among 50,000 across the UK striking in protest at the 35% cut to their guaranteed pensions. It is in the interests of both students and staff that a negotiated settlement can be reached as soon as possible. What discussion are Ministers having with university employers to encourage them to engage in meaningful dialogue with staff and trade unions?

Michelle Donelan Portrait Michelle Donelan
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I and the rest of the Government continue to encourage a meaningful dialogue, because, at the end of the day, those missing out are students, who have suffered unbelievably during the pandemic and faced challenges. The last thing they need is strikes and further disruption to their face-to-face education.

Stephen Metcalfe Portrait Stephen Metcalfe (South Basildon and East Thurrock) (Con)
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Equipping young people with the skills of the future is vital not only for green jobs, as we have heard, but for other emerging technologies. However, many such jobs will be underpinned by an understanding and appreciation of engineering. Will my right hon. Friend therefore consider introducing a new design, technology and engineering course as one of the science options?