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Department: Department for Education

Oral Answers to Questions

Matt Hancock Excerpts
Monday 16th June 2014

(10 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Mearns Portrait Ian Mearns (Gateshead) (Lab)
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1. What steps his Department is taking to support schools in the provision of career guidance.

Matt Hancock Portrait The Minister for Skills and Enterprise (Matthew Hancock)
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From September, new statutory guidance for schools will strengthen the requirements for schools to build relationships with employers to inspire and mentor pupils and deliver careers advice.

Ian Mearns Portrait Ian Mearns
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The fact that careers advice has been completely delegated to schools is leading to growing evidence of a postcode lottery in provision. Unfortunately, Ofsted appear to be inspecting that aspect of provision with a light touch. That is leading to light-weight and inappropriate advice, lacking in impartiality and independence, with many youngsters ending up on courses that will not properly help them fulfil their ambitions and, in some areas, to increased drop-out rates. How will the Minister ensure that young people have their needs met through access to good quality, independent and impartial careers advice and guidance?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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It is true that in the past careers advice was not particularly well delivered as a policy, but the new statutory guidance, which will be in place from September, is all about strengthening the relationship with people in careers they are passionate about. Information is widely available: the issue is inspiration—

Ian Mearns Portrait Ian Mearns
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indicated dissent.

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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The hon. Gentleman shakes his head, but the evidence around the country is that more and more schools are getting in employers and those who have careers to offer, and lifting pupils’ eyes to the horizon.

Steve Baker Portrait Steve Baker (Wycombe) (Con)
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What did the Wolf report, which was welcomed by the Opposition, have to say about work-related learning?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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Work-related learning is an attempt to pretend that young people can be given a feel of what it is like to be in the workplace without putting them in the workplace. We care about high-quality work experience, because all the evidence shows that the more work experience young people do, the more likely they are to get a job.

Meg Hillier Portrait Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) (Lab/Co-op)
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Does the Minister agree that learning to network and to make connections is also important? He did agree to come to Hackney to see some of the best networking and careers advice, and I hope that he will honour that commitment.

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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I am keen to come to Hackney. We have been working on some dates, but we will renew our effort. I agree with the hon. Lady, not least because those who do not have natural networks through their family links often find it harder to break into high-quality jobs, and networking and mentoring can do an enormous amount to break down those barriers and improve social mobility.

Robin Walker Portrait Mr Robin Walker (Worcester) (Con)
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2. When he plans to publish the results of the recent consultation on fairer funding for schools; and if he will make a statement.

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Mary Glindon Portrait Mrs Mary Glindon (North Tyneside) (Lab)
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8. What steps his Department is taking to strengthen relationships between local employers, schools and further education colleges.

Matt Hancock Portrait The Minister for Skills and Enterprise (Matthew Hancock)
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We are in the middle of a big culture change, with more and more employers—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. Before the Minister gets ahead of himself, with characteristic enthusiasm and gusto, I think he will want to confirm to the House his intended grouping of Questions 6 and 8, which I think his briefing folder will tell him.

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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I would be absolutely delighted to do so.

As I was saying, more and more employers are engaging with schools and colleges to inspire young people. As discussed earlier, we have strengthened statutory guidance for schools so that those relationships can help to inspire students into their careers.

Julie Elliott Portrait Julie Elliott
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I thank the Minister for his answer, but a recent report from the university of Bath showed that 60% of school and college governors said that employers were not proactive enough about becoming school governors and thereby taking a formal role in education. Given the importance of employers in improving the employability of our young people, what are the Government going to do about that?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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Absolutely—strengthening the role of employers in governance and on careers advice, and inspiring pupils are vital, and a whole programme of work is under way to encourage more employers. One thing we can do is make it easier and bring about a brokerage so that employers who want to get involved can do so without too much bureaucracy and with the support of their local schools.

Mary Glindon Portrait Mrs Glindon
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Churchill community college has been judged outstanding by Ofsted, and the inspector said that the school prepares young people well for their future. Will the Minister say how his Department will get employers directly involved in curriculum support so that young people at Churchill—and elsewhere—can capitalise on their excellent education and be successful in the world of work?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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Yes, absolutely. One example is the introduction of tech levels for those between 16 and 19 who want to go into vocational education, which will get them into a job. These qualifications have to be signed off as valuable by an employer before we will accept them as tech levels, thus demonstrating the line of sight from work that exists in all educational vocational education.

Caroline Dinenage Portrait Caroline Dinenage (Gosport) (Con)
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As the Minister said, it is vital for schools to forge strong links with businesses to ensure that school leavers are not just numerate and literate, but employable. Does he agree that organisations such as the Education Business Partnership can often play a significant role in building these links?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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Yes, I do. There is a huge array of organisations. Only this morning, I was launching Careers Lab with Steve Holliday, who runs National Grid. That is another organisation, like the one my hon. Friend mentioned, that can help to broker links between employers and education, which are so important after the systems were separated for far too long.

Stephen Mosley Portrait Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con)
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Following on from that, one way to enthuse young people in engineering is to give them first-hand experience and use role models. What is the Minister doing specifically to encourage engineering companies to go into schools and enthuse young people?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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I am delighted to say that there are over 20,000 ambassadors from engineering who go into schools under the STEMNET—the science, technology, engineering and mathematics network—programme. It is just one example of the organisations that can help to bring employment and education together.

David Mowat Portrait David Mowat (Warrington South) (Con)
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7. What steps he is taking to adopt a revised funding formula for schools.

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Graham Stuart Portrait Mr Graham Stuart (Beverley and Holderness) (Con)
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10. What steps he is taking to obtain data from HM Revenue and Customs to improve the development of destination measures for school leavers.

Matt Hancock Portrait The Minister for Skills and Enterprise (Matthew Hancock)
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Data from HMRC can potentially help to show where young people go from educational institutions. We are consulting on how destination data should be used in the league tables, and we know that some of our changes will require changes to legislation.

Graham Stuart Portrait Mr Stuart
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During the last Session, an attempt at change was made in a private Member’s Bill. I hope that the Minister is telling us today that he will make it a Government priority to strengthen destination data, as the Select Committee recommended, so that we can give schools an incentive to take account of not just short-term exam results, but the long-term interests of the child.

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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The use of destination data in league tables is one of the biggest changes that the education reforms will bring about. It will require legislative change. The clauses that were proposed during the last Session are about to find their way into legislation, which will be published soon.

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Margot James Portrait Margot James (Stourbridge) (Con)
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In my borough of Dudley, young people leave school at 16 to pursue A-levels and other forms of post-16 education at local colleges. Does my hon. Friend agree that we need a system of destination measures that will enable us to track the progress of students back to the school that they attended before reaching the age of 16?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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Holding schools and colleges to account for their exam results is important, but it is equally important to be clear about where young people end up. That, I hope, will give schools an incentive to provide a broader education, emphasising knowledge, skills and behaviour, so that school leavers will be able to do what everyone wants them to do, and fulfil their potential.

Graeme Morrice Portrait Graeme Morrice (Livingston) (Lab)
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11. What steps he is taking to ensure that admissions processes in free schools and academies are fair.

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Jason McCartney Portrait Jason McCartney (Colne Valley) (Con)
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13. What progress his Department has made on increasing the number and quality of apprenticeships for 16 to 18-year-olds.

Matt Hancock Portrait The Minister for Skills and Enterprise (Matthew Hancock)
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We are on track to deliver 2 million apprenticeships over this Parliament. We will continue to focus on raising quality, insisting that all apprenticeships are jobs, have a minimum duration of a year, include on-the-job training and meet the needs of employers. As a result, the number of full apprenticeships—those with a planned duration of a year or more—for 16 to 18-year-olds has doubled.

Jason McCartney Portrait Jason McCartney
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Since 2010, an average of 433 workplaces in the Colne and Holme valleys and Lindley employ apprentices, many of which are supported by the excellent local Kirklees college. What are the Minister and his Department doing to support our wonderful further education colleges in helping to deliver these fantastic apprenticeships?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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More than ever, companies are involved in delivering apprentices and having apprentices. Colleges are increasingly providing the training for apprenticeships, but it is also important that we raise quality by ensuring that employers write the training that is required for young people to learn the skills necessary to get a good job.

Andrew Gwynne Portrait Andrew Gwynne (Denton and Reddish) (Lab)
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Sadly, some young people and their parents still see apprenticeships very much as an easy option, so what are the Government doing to better sell the benefits of apprenticeships, and to increase the number of higher and advanced-level apprenticeships, as an alternative pathway to that provided by degrees?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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Our vision is that when young people leave school or college, they have the opportunity to go to university or into a high-quality apprenticeship. We have a programme of reform to increase the quality of apprenticeships, including offering more English and maths and a minimum duration. Undoubtedly, there is more to do to persuade people that apprenticeships are of high quality and that apprenticeships can get them anywhere.

Nick de Bois Portrait Nick de Bois (Enfield North) (Con)
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24. For too long, young people have been encouraged to take vocational qualifications that are below par. Does the Minister agree that, to rectify that, we must focus on the quality of apprenticeships and vocational training, because that is exactly what employers are desperate for?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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I agree very strongly with my hon. Friend. In fact, we have defunded more than 4,000 qualifications for under-18-year-olds in order to concentrate scarce resources on the qualifications that are valuable. Within apprenticeships, all the evidence shows that training while in work increases young people’s life chances, because it gives them the skills, as well as the knowledge and the behaviour needed to get a good start in a career.

Valerie Vaz Portrait Valerie Vaz (Walsall South) (Lab)
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Will the Minister say what support he will give care leavers to access high-quality apprenticeships?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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Through care to work, we have a specific programme to support care leavers to get into apprenticeships. Apprenticeships are part of our programme of ensuring that every young person in our country has the opportunity to reach their potential.

Bob Russell Portrait Sir Bob Russell (Colchester) (LD)
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If the Minister is looking for an example of best practice, I draw his attention to the scheme launched in Colchester earlier this year to recruit 100 apprentices in 100 days. Through a partnership of the Colchester Institute, the Colchester Daily Gazette, and the National Apprenticeship Service, 160 apprentices were recruited.

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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I pay tribute to the Colchester Institute and the Colchester Daily Gazette. Many local papers get involved in promoting apprenticeships, because they are part of a culture change in our country. When young people leave school or college they can go to university or into an apprenticeship, both of which can help them reach their potential.

Rushanara Ali Portrait Rushanara Ali (Bethnal Green and Bow) (Lab)
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Small and medium-sized businesses provide almost 60% of all private sector jobs, but they are saying that the Government’s reforms on apprenticeship funding will make it much harder to offer up-front training and create opportunities. With only 8% of all employers in the UK currently offering apprenticeships, when will the Government admit that their rhetoric does not match the reality on apprenticeships?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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I am slightly surprised to hear that question. In the hon. Lady’s own constituency, the number of apprentices over the past few years has increased by 85%, giving more chances to people. Recently, representatives of half a million employers, mostly small employers, wrote in to our consultation to support the direction of travel, which is supported by the shadow Chancellor.

Alex Cunningham Portrait Alex Cunningham (Stockton North) (Lab)
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14. How many disadvantaged two-year-olds received the 15-hour free entitlement to child care in the latest period for which figures are available?

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Nigel Adams Portrait Nigel Adams (Selby and Ainsty) (Con)
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The rise in the number of apprenticeships in my constituency has contributed to a 52% fall in youth unemployment since the last election. Will the Minister join me in congratulating local employers who are taking those youngsters on, and colleges such as Selby college and York college whose work in that area is doing so much to provide life chances and career prospects for those young people?

Matt Hancock Portrait The Minister for Skills and Enterprise (Matthew Hancock)
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The increase in apprenticeships across the country is helping to tackle youth unemployment. There has been a sharp fall in youth unemployment in many parts of the country—including that of my hon. Friend— with a fall of more than 50% over the past year, which is seriously good news. There are many contributory factors to that, not least colleges that work extremely hard to ensure that young people get jobs, as well as employers who create that prosperity, thanks to our long-term economic plan.

Baroness Chapman of Darlington Portrait Jenny Chapman (Darlington) (Lab)
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What will the Government do about the fact that there are more than 4,000 infant school children in classes of more than 30 in the north-east and North Yorkshire?

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Robert Halfon Portrait Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con)
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The number of apprentices in Harlow has increased by more than 80% during the past year. Will the Minister look to increase the prestige of apprentices and create a royal society of apprentices, which would improve their status and encourage more people to do apprenticeships?

Matt Hancock Portrait Matthew Hancock
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I am delighted that, like many other places in the country, the number of apprentices in Harlow is increasing, and the number of employers taking on apprentices is increasing. During the last year, the increase in those applying for apprenticeships through the apprenticeship vacancy website rose by 50% to 1.5 million, not all of them in Harlow, but many. The culture of apprenticeships is on the rise again in Britain.

Barry Sheerman Portrait Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op)
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Has the Secretary of State noticed the groundswell of opposition to the proposal that the Government might privatise child protection services in local authorities? Has he clearly got the message from people as diverse as Professor Eileen Munro and Caitlin Moran in The Times that that is an unacceptable place for privatisation?