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Oral Answers to Questions

Kit Malthouse Excerpts
Tuesday 24th May 2022

(2 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns (Vale of Glamorgan) (Con)
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6. What plans he has to help ensure that offenders give back to their communities.

Kit Malthouse Portrait The Minister for Crime and Policing (Kit Malthouse)
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When people have broken the law, and when it is safe and proportionate for them to do so, they should serve their sentences in the community. It is important for them to be seen to be paying back to the communities to whom they have caused harm. We are investing £93 million in community payback staff over the next three years so that we can increase the number of hours worked to a record-breaking 8 million a year.

Jerome Mayhew Portrait Jerome Mayhew
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Justice needs to be seen to be done, not just for victims but for the wider community, so that they can be confident that offenders are not getting away with it. Community payback projects allow for offenders to make reparations to the communities whom they have harmed. Can my right hon. Friend assure me that he will be working to expand such projects across the country?

Kit Malthouse Portrait Kit Malthouse
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My hon. Friend is right: people do want to see justice being done, in a visible way, in their communities. I hope that he saw some of the 300-odd gangs of offenders who delivered about 10,000 hours of community work across the country, particularly on environmental schemes, during the recent Keep Britain Tidy spring clean-up week. However, Members of Parliament can also play a part in this project. We do need to increase those hours to 8 million a year, and we need Members’ help in nominating schemes on which we can put offenders to work, so if Members feel like it, I ask them please to go online and look at the Ministry of Justice website. They can nominate a scheme, and we will send some people to do some cleaning up.

Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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Fonmon castle park and gardens, in my constituency, provides a first-class day out for visitors, but will my right hon. Friend join me in congratulating those who run it on the partnership that they have established with HM Prison Parc? This offers new opportunities for offenders, while also resolving some of the labour shortages in the area.

Kit Malthouse Portrait Kit Malthouse
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I am, of course, happy to celebrate the success of Fonmon castle and its partnership with Parc prison. As my right hon. Friend knows, we believe that employment for offenders is critical to moving them into a better life. Building partnerships of that kind between businesses and prisons is key for the future, and I am pleased to tell my right hon. Friend that Parc prison is in line, in the next year, to have one of our new employment advisory boards, which will bring such partnerships to life across all the UK’s geographies.

Tim Farron Portrait Tim Farron (Westmorland and Lonsdale) (LD)
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Offenders are unlikely to be able to give back to their communities if they find themselves homeless on their release from prison, as I have discovered when supporting people in that situation in my own community. Will the Minister undertake to bring to the House a report indicating the extent to which homelessness among ex-offenders is a fact—which it clearly is—along with an action plan to help constituency Members in all parts of the House to support people when they leave prison so that they can lead a stable existence in their communities and therefore give back?

Kit Malthouse Portrait Kit Malthouse
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I agree with the hon. Gentleman that the provision of a home—of accommodation—for those leaving the secure estate is critical. We believe that there are three pillars to success: a job, a house and a friend to put people on to the straight and narrow. I do not have to publish a report to underline that, because there has been plenty of research to prove that it is the case. The hon. Gentleman will be pleased to know that we do have an action plan, with some challenging targets, to ensure that all those leaving the secure estate can access the accommodation they need to get them back on to the straight and narrow.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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I call the shadow Minister, Ellie Reeves.

Ellie Reeves Portrait Ellie Reeves (Lewisham West and Penge) (Lab)
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Unpaid work gives offenders a chance to give back to their communities, but huge workloads and staff shortages in the probation service mean that in some areas there is a backlog of up to 100,000 hours owed by offenders, and some have even had their hours wiped because they have not been completed in time. Is this not just another example of our broken justice system—a system that lets offenders off while victims pay the price? When will the Government get serious and fix this?

Kit Malthouse Portrait Kit Malthouse
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It is very sad that the hon. Lady is not celebrating the achievements of the probation service, which is expanding. We are recruiting 500 new community supervisors so that we can get on top of some of the covid-related backlog in unpaid work. We have to hit 8 million hours and we have thousands of offenders out there in high-vis jackets doing the work, particularly environmental work with organisations such as the Canal & River Trust. When the Prime Minister promoted that scheme, the Opposition condemned it, saying that it was somehow inhuman. Actually, all our communities across the United Kingdom, day in day out, are seeing justice being done by these offenders, and that is set to grow.

Alex Norris Portrait Alex Norris (Nottingham North) (Lab/Co-op)
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3. What assessment he has made of the impact of court delays on victim attrition rates.

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Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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15. What steps he is taking to assure the public that non-custodial sentences are being enforced.

Kit Malthouse Portrait The Minister for Crime and Policing (Kit Malthouse)
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Community sentences are robust and increasingly command the public’s confidence, not least as they can see more and more offenders in high-vis, brush and shovel in hand, in their streets.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne
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It is reported that the penalties can be discharged by working from home. Please tell me that is not true.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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A yes or a no will do.

Kit Malthouse Portrait Kit Malthouse
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My county colleague can always be relied on to emerge from the forest and ask the most challenging questions. He is correct that independent working projects, while not ideal, were introduced during the pandemic to allow offenders to discharge their sentence with robust and rigorous projects done at home, such as manufacturing personal protective equipment or, more recently, clothing items for Ukrainian refugees. It is our intention to reduce the proportion of sentences that can be done under home working, although for those who cannot handle a brush and a shovel there may well still be a place for it in the future—

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I call the shadow Secretary of State. That is too long an answer.

Steve Reed Portrait Steve Reed (Croydon North) (Lab/Co-op)
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We have heard a lot of complacency from the Government Benches on this issue. According to the Minister’s own Department, community payback offenders now carry out 75% fewer hours of unpaid work compared with five years ago. On average, 30,000 offenders get away without completing their community sentences every year, and now we hear the Government are letting criminals finish their unpaid work sentences at home. Why have they gone so soft on crime that they are letting those criminals get away with it?

Kit Malthouse Portrait Kit Malthouse
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It is not the case that community sentences can be completed using those hours, but I am sure the hon. Gentleman will understand that, during the pandemic, with the restrictions placed upon us, we had to find a way to allow offenders to complete their sentence in a satisfactory way. We have systems in place to make sure the jobs are done rigorously to time and, as I have said, we will be winding down that project.

Edward Timpson Portrait Edward Timpson (Eddisbury) (Con)
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17. What steps his Department is taking to reform the family justice system.

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Dave Doogan Portrait Dave Doogan (Angus) (SNP)
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The Secretary of State will be aware that police officer numbers play a key role in reducing crime and reoffending, so what plans does he have to increase England’s officer level of 23 officers per 10,000 people to bring it closer to Scotland’s of 32 per 10,000 people?

Kit Malthouse Portrait The Minister for Crime and Policing (Kit Malthouse)
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Mr Speaker, as you know, the Government are in the middle of a huge recruitment drive of police officers. We have, happily, increased the number by 13,500, and I am confident that by the end of the financial year we will have hit our 20,000 target.