James Wild
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Public Bill CommitteesClause 78 legislates for the new rates of the soft drinks industry levy, to apply from 1 April 2025. The levy came into effect in April 2018—it was introduced by the previous Government, with cross-party support—and is considered a successful mechanism for changing behaviour and encouraging reformulation of packaged soft drinks, resulting in reduced sugar content. That is seen through the levy’s significant success in reducing the sugar content in UK soft drinks by 46%.
The levy applies to packaged soft drinks containing added sugar. It has a lower rate, which applies to drinks with a total sugar content of 5 grams to 7.9 grams per 100 ml, and a higher rate for drinks with 8 grams or more per 100 ml. Producers, manufacturers and importers of liable soft drinks must register, report, and pay the levy on the volume of liable soft drinks packaged in and imported into the UK.
The levy rates have not been increased since their introduction many years ago, in 2018, and so have gradually reduced in value against inflation. In 2018, SDIL made up approximately 11% of the price of a 330 ml can of full-sugar Coca-Cola; in January 2025, it makes up only 6%. Uprating the levy in line with inflation will ensure that it remains effective and continues to encourage reformulation, by protecting its value in real terms.
Clause 78 amends section 36(1) of the Finance Act 2017 to reflect the new rates of the levy to apply from 1 April 2025. Those are £1.94 and £2.59, per 10 litres of prepared drink, for the lower and higher bands respectively. The new rates reflect forecasted changes in the consumer prices index in the year to 1 April 2025, as well as an additional increment to help to catch up for previous inflation. The catch-up reflects the 27% CPI change between 2018 and 2024 and will be spread evenly over the five rate increases from 2025 to 2029. That is to support soft drink manufacturers to adjust to the higher rates. The rates have also been adjusted to apply per 10 litres rather than per litre, so that rate changes can be made in smaller increments to reflect changes in CPI inflation more precisely. To illustrate using the current lower rate, 18p per litre becomes £1.80 per 10 litres—I think people could have probably worked that one out.
We do not accept new clause 9, which would require the Chancellor to make an additional statement about the impacts of the measure. The Government do not consider that necessary, as a tax information and impact note detailing the anticipated effects of the measure was published at autumn Budget. I would also highlight that the Government are taking a gradual approach to restoring the original real-terms value of the soft drinks industry levy. From 1 April, the levy will still be worth significantly less, compared with general prices, than it was in 2018.
Clause 78 will protect the real-terms value of the levy and build on its significant success, by increasing both the lower and higher rates in line with inflation.
As we heard from the Minister, clause 78 amends the Finance Act 2017 to uprate the soft drinks industry levy, to reflect the change in the CPI from April 2018 to April 2024. The uprating represents an increase of 27%. We support the soft drinks industry levy, but we have strong concerns about the backdating of the tax rate.
As we all know, the consumption of too many high-sugar drinks can lead to weight gain and the risk of medical conditions. It also leads to tooth decay, which is a particular concern for younger people. As the Minister pointed out, this levy was introduced by a Conservative Government with cross-party support to tackle those issues, and it has been a successful, highly effective policy, delivering against the stated objective of encouraging reformulation. The British Soft Drinks Association has said that the levy
“has achieved its intended goal of promoting significant sugar reduction and 89% of soft drinks are now non-SDIL liable. Reformulation has clearly not lost pace with the volume of soft drinks with less than 5g sugar per 100ml increasing by 17.5%> between April 2023 and March 2024.”
Our main concern is about the unprecedented backdating of this tax increase. New clause 9 would require a review of its impact. The decision to backdate inflation over an extended period, creating a 27% retrospective increase, appears to have no parallel in recent tax policy. The backdating is a fundamental departure from the predictability that should be at the heart of tax policy.
Given that the levy has been so effective, why do the Government see a need for such a large increase? As the British Soft Drinks Association points out, it appears that their rationale is primarily focused on revenue raising, rather than public health outcomes. The introduction of such retrospective elements requires close examination of both precedent and consequences, as demonstrated by examples of duty freezes and restarts in recent years.
Comparative excise goods such as alcohol, fuel and tobacco are reviewed annually. Where rates have been frozen across several years, they have not subsequently been subject to those missing years’ inflation rates being applied in this way. Figures from the House of Commons Library calculate what impact a similar backdated increase would have on fuel duty. Following the approach used for the soft drinks levy, if inflation since 2011 was added to fuel duty, using the RPI measure, the duty on a litre of petrol or diesel would increase from 57.95p per litre to 95.18p per litre—a rise of 64%. I am not sure about the Minister’s constituents, but I am pretty sure that mine would be very alarmed at the potential for such a backdated increase to be applied.
Are the Government establishing such backdated increases as a new norm within their tax policies? Companies making long-term investment choices need certainty—the Exchequer Secretary has used that word many times in Committee—to be able to plan and invest in the country. Can the Minister give us an assurance that the Government will not pull off similar tax raids in other sectors, particularly with regard to fuel duty?
We have also heard concerns about the impact assessment, which had limited engagement. The measure is expected to generate £95 million in revenue by 2029-30, yet the assessment does not model how established price elasticity in soft drinks will affect those projections. The assessment acknowledges that both reformulation and reduction in demand will occur, but provides no quantification of the effects. I would be interested to hear the Minister’s comments on that point.
The assessment also does not examine how changes to tax policy without consultation could affect future investment decisions, nor does it explore the market distortions of applying different principles to soft drinks as opposed to other categories of drinks. Will the Minister confirm that these issues have been considered? If they have not, will they be?
I thank the shadow Minister for reiterating that there was indeed cross-party support in 2018 when the previous Government introduced the soft drinks industry levy. I say gently to him that if the previous Government had kept the levy in line with CPI, we would not be in this situation.
The shadow Minister asked what considerations have been made about the impact of the measure. As I said in my opening speech about the clause, the catch-up reflects the 27% CPI change between 2018 and 2024. Because we have considered the impact on soft drinks manufacturers, it will be spread evenly over the five rate increases from 2025 to 2029. The shadow Minister should consider the fact that we are gradually spreading the increase.
It is worth considering the views of those who have supported the Government’s change. For example, Barbara Crowther, the children’s food campaign manager at Sustain, has said:
“It’s absolutely right that after six years, the government should now increase the penalties for all the companies who have not done enough to reduce the sugar levels in drinks, and we urge them to ensure all money raised by the levy is reinvested in children’s health.”
The levy has been globally recognised as a transformative health tax intervention. Modelling studies have associated it with up to 5,000 fewer cases of obesity in girls aged 10 to 11 and a 28.6% reduction in hospital admissions for tooth extractions for children under the age of five. Our Government take children’s health very seriously, particularly given the worrying levels of obesity in our society and the issues with children’s dental health. That is why we are bringing forward the change.
Will the Minister address directly the point about backdating and say whether it represents a change in approach to taxation policy by this Government? They have introduced a 27% increase from the date when the levy was frozen. As I said, if that approach had applied to fuel duty, it would result in a 64% increase. People will be concerned; will the Minister give reassurance about the Government’s approach to taxation?
It is a bit of an exaggeration to read into this change, which we have introduced because the previous Government failed to keep the levy in line with inflation, and somehow infer from that—
I am coming to that. It is an exaggeration to infer from that that it becomes a new norm. It does not. I am certainly not going to write next year’s Budget or the year after’s Budget—that would be way above my pay grade in any case—but we are introducing this clause precisely because the former Government failed to keep the levy in line with inflation.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 78 accordingly ordered to stand part of the Bill.
Clause 79
Limited liability partnerships
Question proposed, That the clause stand part of the Bill.
In my view, a cryptocurrency is a type of cryptoasset, but I will check that.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 81 accordingly ordered to stand part of the Bill.
Clause 82
Duty on vaping products
I beg to move amendment 67, in clause 82, page 95, line 14, at end insert—
“(2) In doing so His Majesty’s Revenue and Customs must have regard to the desirability of requiring a digital tax stamp to be applied to e-cigarette liquids.”
This amendment requires HMRC to have regard for requiring a digital tax stamp to be applied to e-cigarette liquids.
The clause is about enabling HMRC to prepare for the introduction of a new excise duty on vaping products before it is formally provided for in law. Amendment 67 would require that, in doing so, HMRC must have regard to the desirability of requiring a digital tax stamp to be applied to e-cigarette liquids.
A million people in England now vape despite never having been regular smokers—a sevenfold increase in just three years—and vaping rates are highest among 16 to 24-year-olds, hence the measures that are going through in the Tobacco and Vapes Bill. Like many of the measures we have discussed in Committee, this new duty was first announced by the previous Conservative Government, and my right hon. Friend the Member for Godalming and Ash (Jeremy Hunt) announced the introduction of an excise duty on vaping products from October 2026.
There is a strong case to take action on the affordability of vapes, while ensuring that there is a significant differential between the duty on vapes and the duty on other tobacco products. After the consultation that the previous Government launched, this Government have announced that they will apply a flat-rate duty on all vaping liquid from October 2026, set at £2.20 per 10 ml of vaping liquid.
Clause 82 simply provides for HMRC to
“prepare for the introduction of a new duty”;
the main provisions will come in future legislation. When new taxes and levies are introduced, it is important to get the implementation right. After consultation, a single flat-rate duty will apply, which should reduce non-compliance and tax avoidance opportunities and be more proportionate both for industry and for HMRC to administer.
Tristan Osborne (Chatham and Aylesford) (Lab)
Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the Treasury is already consulting on digital access for vaping products as part of the vaping products duty? It is already going through the process, but we are subject to the progress of that duty in the Tobacco and Vapes Bill Committee just down the corridor.
After that intervention, I hope the hon. Member will support my amendment when I press it to a vote. The Government are moving in this direction, so let us get this in the legislation and get HMRC working at full throttle to make sure that it happens. I hope that he will feel able to support that.
As with any new tax, there are risks associated with the duty. The illicit market could be boosted, increasing the enforcement burden on HMRC and other Departments. Juul, one of the largest operators, believes that the Government should give HMRC sufficient enforcement powers. At the very least, they should mirror those in relation to tobacco duty. What steps are the Government taking to boost compliance powers and protect against illicit activity in this market?
Amendment 67 would require HMRC to have regard to the desirability of introducing a digital tax stamp. I am pleased that the Government intend to implement a vaping duty stamp scheme to help enforcement bodies and the industry to identify products that are non-duty paid. I note that in the Government’s further consultation on compliance measures to complement HMRC’s traditional compliance activity, the Government stated their intention, to which the hon. Member for Chatham and Aylesford referred, to incorporate a degree of digital tracing and authentication into the final stamp design.
Digital stamps are harder to counterfeit. They are less prone to damage and less likely to fall off products, and they allow for more information to be held and tracked by both the industry and HMRC. Juul points out that its experience in Canada, where it is required to apply physical duty stamps, has led it to believe that digital versions are far better for business and tax authorities alike.
Industry needs certainty. Given the Government’s digital by default approach to taxation, I hope that the Minister will be able to give a commitment today that the Government intend to require a fully digital tax stamp. Under an earlier clause, we spoke about removing a physical stamp from alcohol and spirits, for example, so I do not see why the Government would not be able to support my amendment 67.
We will not oppose clause 82, but I look forward to the Minister’s response to my specific points, and I intend to press my amendment to a vote.
I thank the shadow Minister for his comments. If he will bear with me, I will speak generally about clause 82 before I address his amendment.
Clause 82 will make changes to ensure that HMRC can secure the resource it needs to implement the vaping products duty. The duty will be legislated for in this Bill and will come into force on 1 October 2026. It will be accompanied by a one-off increase in all tobacco duties to maintain the financial incentive to give up tobacco.
The chief medical officer is clear that those who do not smoke should not vape. Introducing a vaping products duty is part of the wider Government strategy to tackle vaping among young people—as the shadow Minister stated, there are worrying developments in the number of young people taking up vaping—and indeed among those who do not smoke, including via the Tobacco and Vapes Bill and the ban on disposable vapes. The vaping products duty is forecast to raise £525 million in revenue a year by the end of the scorecard, to fund vital public services such as the NHS, defence, education and stop smoking initiatives supporting a smoke-free UK.
In 2023, 12% of the UK’s adult population used e-cigarettes, the highest rate ever recorded. One million people in England now vape despite never having been regular smokers: a sevenfold increase in just three years, which is pretty shocking. As the shadow Minister said, vaping rates are highest among 16 to 24-year-olds, with 15.8% vaping daily or occasionally. Reducing affordability is part of the Government’s wider strategy to influence behaviour, especially given the addictive nature of these products.
Several countries have already introduced a tax on vaping. Approximately 50 countries have a national tax on vaping products, with most targeting liquid as the tax base. The majority target both nicotine-free liquids and liquids containing nicotine. The changes made by clause 82 will enable HMRC to prepare for the introduction of the new excise duty before it is formally provided for in primary legislation next year. It will allow for spending on IT systems and staff recruitment.
On the shadow Minister’s amendment 67, I thank him for his speech, and I agree that it is crucial to get the implementation of the Bill right. His amendment would require HMRC to
“have regard to the desirability of requiring a digital tax stamp to be applied to e-cigarette liquids.”
The Government deem the amendment unnecessary at this time, as HMRC is already giving due consideration to vaping duty stamps. The decision to introduce vaping duty stamps was supported by respondents to the vaping products duty consultation, who pointed to their use on vaping products in other jurisdictions.
The shadow Minister asked about the illicit vaping market. HMRC intends to exploit modern technology and digitalisation to ensure that the vaping duty stamps scheme targets the specific risks of the illicit vaping market. A technical public consultation on the design of the scheme ran from 30 October 2024 to 11 December 2024, and respondents submitted their views on digital duty stamps, physical duty stamps or a combined approach. We are currently analysing the responses to that consultation; no policy decision has yet been made. We will communicate in due course a policy decision to balance enforcement decisions and business operations. We will take on board the views of the shadow Minister; I thank him again for his amendment. The Government remain committed to working with industry to ensure that the scheme only creates burdens that are essential to tackle non-compliance, avoidance and evasion.
Let me try to answer the shadow Minister’s questions. He asked whether there is a risk that increasing tobacco duty and introducing a vaping duty will drive up illicit trade. The threat from illicit tobacco needs to be addressed by reducing its availability, rather than allowing it to dictate our public health and tax policies. We are consulting on additional robust compliance tools for tackling the illicit trade in vapes and will collaborate with Border Force to target the illicit trade when the duty goes live. HMRC and Border Force already have a strategy in place to tackle illicit tobacco. I hope that that reassures the shadow Minister.
The shadow Minister also asked about digital versus physical vaping duty stamps. Vaping duty stamps will support both enforcement and industry by identifying products that are non-duty paid and therefore illicit. They will also help HMRC to manage the revenue risk from the initial sell-through period and to limit the duty avoidance practice known as forestalling, which is clearing large quantities of excise goods from duty suspense immediately prior to a rate increase to avoid paying the new tax.
In regard to the shadow Minister’s amendment, the Government will not commit to fully digital stamps, as we are analysing consultation responses. A policy decision will be taken in due course, but I reassure him that we will take his views on board.
I am grateful for the Minister’s response. However, the amendment would help set a clear direction. It is in line with the Government’s digital by default approach to taxation and reflects what was in the consultation document and what industry is calling for. It does not say that HMRC must introduce such a system; it simply says that HMRC
“must have regard to the desirability of requiring a digital tax stamp”.
I specifically worded the amendment to allow for precisely the point that the Minister has outlined. HMRC may decide that, contrary to the Government’s digital by default tax approach, a digital tax stamp is not necessary. In that case, all that has been required is for HMRC to have a proper look at introducing it. I will press amendment 67 to a vote.
Question put, That the amendment be made.
As we heard from the Minister, the clause will enable commissioners for HMRC to prepare for the introduction of the CBAM, which will be charged on specific emissions-intensive imports into the UK from 1 January 2027. We will not oppose the measure, but I do want to raise a couple of points.
As the Minister said, the CBAM is a tax on emissions embodied in certain goods imported into the UK for which a carbon price has not been incurred overseas at a rate at least equivalent to the UK. While I appreciate that this is an enabling power, the Chartered Institute of Taxation, which I do not think has yet had a mention today, as opposed to Tuesday—I will get that on the record—has expressed some surprise at how basic the detail of the clause is, as it simply grants authority to introduce a CBAM and to request information from the UK Emissions Trading Scheme Authority or other national authorities. Will she give us a bit more of a flavour of when more detail about the CBAM’s operation will be forthcoming?
As well as queries about the CBAM’s implementation, I have heard concerns about the impact that it may have on businesses and consumers. The National Farmers Union has raised concerns about the impact that it may have on vital sectors. In particular, it may push up the cost of fertilisers, as my hon. Friend the Member for Gordon and Buchan said. That is a particular concern for the arable sector, where fertiliser makes up 12% of total farm costs. Higher costs could not come at a worse time when they also face the impact of the family farm tax.
The NFU has also raised concerns that such a tax could create an unlevel playing field for British farmers and growers. Consequently, a bit like for the changes to inheritance tax, the NFU will be developing its own impact assessment to fully understand the impact of this tax policy on the industry. I hope that the Minister will keep this measure under close scrutiny in the coming months. We will not oppose the clause, but I look forward to her response.
I thank the shadow Minister for his questions. I think from his comments that he knows this, but the clause is a paving measure for legislation that will be introduced. There will be further detail in draft legislation that will come in a future Finance Bill, so I cannot give him that detail today, but I take into account what he said. Draft legislation will be published so that affected industries can comment on it. I therefore reassure him that some of the issues he raised will be taken into account.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 83 ordered to stand part of the Bill.
Clause 84
Correction of wrong cross-reference etc
Question proposed, That the clause stand part of the Bill.
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
To support growth, innovation and investment, we require a competitive tax environment for business. New clause 10 would require the Chancellor, within six months of the Bill being passed, to conduct a review of business and lay before the House a report setting out recommendations arising from the review, including recommendations on how to use business tax to encourage and increase the investment of profits and revenue, and on how to ensure that businesses have certainty about the taxes to which they are subject.
A common theme throughout the Committee has been the impact of the measures in the first Labour Budget for 14 years. Sadly, we know that that Budget and this Finance Bill introduce tax increases of around £40 billion a year—it is the biggest tax-raising Budget in modern history. It is businesses that are bearing the brunt, including the £25 billion a year through the jobs tax that the Government repeatedly promised during the election not to introduce.
The Government said that their priority is growth. We heard more about their plans yesterday, but we did not hear much about how their plans would deliver more growth in this Parliament, rather than in the long term. While that is welcome, I think people are also interested in the here and now. Having inherited the fastest-growing economy in the G7, the OBR then downgraded the growth rate by 0.7% in its forecast, as a result of the measures in the Budget. We have seen borrowing costs rise to the highest level for 27 years, inflation is above target and business confidence is plummeting. That latter point is what lies behind the new clause.
Yuan Yang (Earley and Woodley) (Lab)
Although I am very much in support of reviews, and the OBR is the right body to conduct ongoing reviews of the impact of taxation on growth, does the hon. Gentleman want to set out any direction in which the Opposition might want to take business taxes? If there is a certain direction, where will the costs and savings come from?
Would that we had the happy chance to be sitting in the Treasury making the policy decisions. It is the Chancellor who will bring forward another fiscal event, and who may have to take some action to deal with the impact of her Budget. This is about what the Government will do and the review that they conduct and bring forward.
Business confidence is essential for investment, but it has been damaged by this Government, when they first came in, talking down the economy. We now hear a much more positive tone talking about our strengths, and the strong fundamentals of our economy, which were all points that the Opposition made throughout our period in office. We encouraged the Government to do the same when they came in, but they wanted to talk about a fantasy black hole and the worst economic inheritance, which has done a lot of damage to our economy.
The latest Confederation of British Industry growth indicator shows that private sector firms expect a significant fall in activity over the next three months. The latest purchasing managers’ index flash shows that one in four businesses have cut jobs due to employment costs. The Office for National Statistics showed that retail sales in December fell by 43%. This is a worrying state of affairs and any Members who speak to businesses will have heard the deep concerns over the hiking costs of employing people, the cut in business rate support for retail, leisure and hospitality businesses, and other measures.
The Budget put up taxes on entrepreneurs and wealth creators, and it is driving people who create wealth away from our country. The energy profits levy puts at risk 35,000 jobs in Scotland and the North sea. The family business tax, which was launched without any warning, has had a highly damaging impact on family farms and other family firms. That is why a review of business taxation is so necessary, with the objective of not only encouraging an increase in investment but providing certainty for firms. The Minister has spoken repeatedly about certainty, so I hope he will feel able to support the new clause.
Mr MacDonald
I support what the shadow Minister said, almost word for word. My career has been in business, and in my two days sitting in the Committee, I have been appalled by what seems to be tax increase upon tax increase. Small and medium-sized businesses across the UK are on their knees and we have done a catastrophic job since the Budget in ruining things for businesses.
New clause 10 would make changes to require the Government to conduct a review of business taxes, and make recommendations on how to increase business certainty and investment, before the next Finance Bill is published.
The Government do not support the new clause. The Government keep all taxes, including taxes paid by businesses, under ongoing review. At the autumn Budget, the Government published their corporate tax road map to provide certainty to businesses about the areas of the business tax system they intend to keep stable, and the areas they intend to review over the course of this Parliament.
The Government have also committed to a review of the business rates system. At the autumn Budget, the Government published a discussion paper that set out the Government’s priority areas for reform of the business rates tax system. The Government have therefore already set out areas of the business rates system where they will provide stability. Given our existing processes and recent commitments, I ask the hon. Member to withdraw the new clause.
Sorry—it has been a long afternoon.
We need to provide certainty, and the new clause was intended to be constructive. It would frame the next fiscal event so as to address all the issues that businesses have been talking to us about. There are issues with business confidence, and yesterday we saw more companies laying people off. This is a serious time, and we need the Government to listen to what is happening, so I intend to press the new clause to a Division.
Question put, That the clause be read a Second time.
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
As we know, households currently face a number of challenges, and the measures in the Bill and the Budget will serve only to exacerbate them. At the time of the Budget, the OBR confirmed that real household disposal income will be
“1¼ per cent lower by the start of 2029. The bulk of this difference (around 85 per cent) is explained by policies announced in this Budget.”
It is because of the measures in the Bill and the Budget that growth is forecast to be lower over the forecast period than predicted in March last year. Higher borrowing means that interest rates are forecast to be higher for longer, which means that mortgage rates will be higher for longer. Borrowing costs have hit a 27-year high under this Chancellor—hardly the stability that is her watchword. The Government inherited inflation at target; since then inflation has increased, which means less money in people’s pockets. All those effects will be felt by the working families the Government said were their priority at the general election.
As we discussed in Committee of the whole House, the Bill’s education tax will hit people who have chosen to prioritise providing for their children’s education in the place that they consider best suits their child’s needs. The Conservatives are for 100% of children, and we back parents’ freedom to choose; the Labour party is adopting a self-defeating ideological approach to our education system, including academies, that seeks to divide. The education tax will hit 100,000 children with special needs who are in independent schools but without education, health and care plans. We have already seen children withdrawn from schools and schools closing as a result.
Measures such as increased alcohol duty, air passenger duty and vehicle duty will impact household finances directly, and borrowing costs have risen, meaning hard-working families will have to pay the costs—[Interruption.] Excuse me, my voice is going. Any impact that changes in the Bill will have on households should be closely monitored, which is what the new clause seeks to achieve.
As the shadow Minister set out, the new clause would require the Government to report on the likely impact of the tax measures on households across the income distribution. The Government already published that information alongside the autumn Budget in the “Impact on households” report, which illustrated the distributional impact of Government measures that have a direct impact on household incomes. Those measures come from welfare benefits, tax paid or benefits in kind received through public services by UK residents.
The analysis shows that the Government decisions at the autumn Budget 2024 and spending review 2025 phase 1 are progressive. Increases to public service spending means that households are, on average, better off in 2025-26 as a result of those decisions. The impacts of Government decisions benefit households in the lowest-income deciles the most, on average, as a percentage of income in 2025-26. The increases in tax are concentrated on the highest-income households. Overall, on average, all but the richest 10% of households will benefit from policy decisions in 2025-26.
Since the assessment of the impact of the Budget on households across the income distribution has already been published, I ask the shadow Minister to withdraw the new clause.
In the light of my failing voice I will not move the next new clause, so this will be the last time I will speak in the Committee. I thank you, Ms Vaz, and Mr Mundell, the Clerks and other officials, as well as Committee members. I also echo the thanks for the Chartered Institute of Taxation and others, and I thank Billy Falcon in my office, who has done sterling work in supporting me. I am grateful to the Minister for his comments. I am sure the rest of the Committee will be delighted that I beg to ask leave to withdraw the clause.
Clause, by leave withdrawn.