Railways Bill Debate

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Department: Department for Transport
Lord Katz Portrait Lord in Waiting/Government Whip (Lord Katz) (Lab)
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My Lords, before we hear from the Minister in reply to this group, I would just like to be a bit pernickety and urge Back-Bench speakers, if they can, to speak before Front-Bench winders. It is not in the Companion, but I think that it is good custom and practice and aids the flow and understanding of debate. Without further ado, I will let the Minister respond.

Lord Berkeley Portrait Lord Berkeley (Lab)
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What have I done wrong? I am terribly sorry.

Lord Katz Portrait Lord Katz (Lab)
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My noble friend has done nothing wrong, as per the Companion, but usually in Committee Back-Benchers speak before the Front-Bench winders. It helps if noble Lords understand when people speak. Before we get into a long debate, it is not in the Companion, and we have freedom to speak and to intervene—it just helps the flow of debate, when we have a long Committee debate ahead of us.

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb Portrait Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (GP)
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So, technically, because I am the only Green, I am a Front-Bench winder as well. I just want to establish the rules.

Lord Katz Portrait Lord Katz (Lab)
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Green Members often speak as part of the Back Benches, but the noble Baroness is of course welcome to speak whenever.

Lord Berkeley Portrait Lord Berkeley (Lab)
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I apologise to the Committee and in particular to the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon.

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Amendment 90 withdrawn.
Lord Katz Portrait Lord Katz (Lab)
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My Lords, given the lateness of the hour and the nature of the topic that we will be discussing, I suggest that we adjourn the Grand Committee.

Committee adjourned at 8.50 pm.