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Oral Answers to Questions

Jonathan Brash Excerpts
Tuesday 11th November 2025

(1 day, 13 hours ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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That could also help with the reopening of Chorley court, Minister.

Jonathan Brash Portrait Mr Jonathan Brash (Hartlepool) (Lab)
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8. What assessment he has made of the potential implications for his policies of the number of prisoners serving imprisonment for public protection sentences.

David Lammy Portrait The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Mr David Lammy)
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It is right that the IPP sentence was abolished. The number of unreleased IPP prisoners fell to 946, as of 30 September 2025—a reduction of 14% compared with the previous year. Legislative changes that we implemented have reduced the number of people serving IPP sentences in the community to around two thirds.

Jonathan Brash Portrait Mr Brash
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My constituent, Terry Rowley, received an IPP sentence on 8 February 2008. His minimum tariff was set at one year and 126 days. That was 6,486 days ago—almost 18 years—and he remains in prison. No one disputes the seriousness of his offences, but the issue for Terry and his family is one of equal justice. Someone sentenced to the same crime today would not receive an IPP. Does the Secretary of State accept that this raises fundamental concerns about fairness and equality before the law for those serving under the IPP regime, and what steps will he take to fix it?

David Lammy Portrait Mr Lammy
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I recognise the challenges for Terry and his family. We are determined to support those in prison to progress towards safe and sustainable releases, but understandably that cannot be in a way that undermines public protection. We are not giving up on any individual serving an IPP sentence. We will ensure that each one gets the support and access to the risk education and risk reduction work that they need. I will ensure that Terry is receiving all the support he needs.