Military Covenant Debate

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Department: Ministry of Defence

Military Covenant

Huw Irranca-Davies Excerpts
Wednesday 16th February 2011

(13 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Huw Irranca-Davies Portrait Huw Irranca-Davies (Ogmore) (Lab)
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I will try to be brief by asking the Minister to answer the questions of others, not points raised by me.

The director general of the Royal British Legion, Chris Simpkins, said:

“We’re seeing various allowances paid to the armed forces being reduced…If we then see that the Government isn’t prepared to give a legal commitment to an armed forces covenant I feel that may well be the straw that breaks the camel’s back and will have a very harmful impact on morale.”

In case there is any doubt, he talked previously about

“the need to define and enshrine in law a set of principles in a military covenant.”

Let me put some points made by serving armed forces families. J. Winfield of Nottingham says:

“Once again a new Government have got into power on the back of broken promises. For those of us in the military, we have seen a cut in take-home pay (not a pay freeze), an attack on our pension scheme (against the charter) and basically a complete betrayal by this Government. When the economic climate improves they need not worry about compulsory redundancies as experienced personnel will be leaving in droves. But let us remember ‘we are all in this together’.”

Hilary Adams of London says:

“I’m constantly amazed that anyone in the Army is surprised when they get dumped on by Government. Haven’t you people realised you’re nothing more than cannon fodder? They made a big PR issue of upping other perks to soldiers when they came into power. It should surely have been obvious that they would pay for that by taking it away from you elsewhere!”

Let me conclude by quoting some comments I have taken off one of the armed forces sites. As the Government Front-Bench team will know, these sites can use fruity language, so I have edited the comments.

“How many of you are actually aware that as we speak, the Government are to steal from each and every one of you who have served your country and earned your pension tens of thousands of pounds because they are to change the way the annual increase is worked out?...I just like thousands of other soldiers, sailors and airmen have done my time plus some more and now they have decided to change the goal posts. I stayed in and I am still in because of the pension, not because I like being institutionalised…For me integrity is important; if you promise something to a person, you keep that promise and give it to them. The next person to come along does not necessarily have to get the same deal, this is the way life is. I was promised something, and I want it in the same form I had become used to expecting I would receive it. I honoured my side of the agreement, will they”—

he is referring to the Government Front-Bench team—

“honour theirs? I doubt it.”

He said:

“I shall be next year, aged 43, forced into possible unemployment because the option to remain serving isn’t there for me like many others. Perhaps if enough of us actually give a hoot, and took action he”—

the Prime Minister—

“may have second thoughts. Wake up, people, if you are entitled to an Armed Forces pension you are going to lose tens of thousands of pounds over your lifetime. What really annoys me is that it seems many of you either don’t know this is going to happen”—

speaking to his other colleagues—

“or don’t give a damn. Please start to take action now before it’s too late. We are getting royally bent over and”—

I leave the rest to the imagination of the House.

If the Government do not honour that covenant given on the Ark Royal, what will they do? Servicemen and their families are asking the House to honour the covenant. That is what the debate is about.

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Huw Irranca-Davies Portrait Huw Irranca-Davies
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Far from blogs, I also quoted Chris Simpkins of the Royal British Legion, who said:

“The British public has shown it sees”

the role of coroner

“as vital in ensuring bereaved Service families can have confidence in the investigations of their loved ones’ deaths. We believe it is fundamental to the inquest process and to the fulfilment of the Military Covenant”.

The Minister should not respond to the blogs but to the Royal British Legion.

Lord Robathan Portrait Mr Robathan
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I will come to that if I have time at the end.

My hon. Friend the Member for Portsmouth North (Penny Mordaunt) might qualify as almost gallant in her role in the Royal Naval Reserve. I am grateful to her for what she said. She is absolutely right that this Government believe in action, not words—not spin, but results.

The hon. Member for Birmingham, Edgbaston (Ms Stuart) made three swift points that seemed pretty reasonable. I would love to respond and wonder if she could write to me about them.

I now turn to the Front-Bench contribution by the right hon. Member for East Renfrewshire (Mr Murphy). I expect that he now regrets having called this debate, because he has not come out of it with any credit. Like the hon. Member for Ogmore, he quoted at length the Royal British Legion. I have here the Royal British Legion’s initial comments on the proposed armed forces covenant, dated 21 January—not four weeks ago—in which it says that it broadly welcomes the proposals. I am afraid that one can quote selectively at any stage, and Labour Members are doing so.

I am afraid that the hon. Member for West Dunbartonshire (Gemma Doyle) regurgitated the arguments that we have heard in the Select Committee on the Armed Forces Bill, and they had no more resonance. The Committee has made three visits—to the Nottingham reserves centre, to Colchester and to Headley Court—and I am disappointed that of the six Labour Members on the Committee, who make so much fuss about these things, three did not come on any of those visits.