Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Cabinet Office

Oral Answers to Questions

Chris Vince Excerpts
Thursday 25th July 2024

(2 months, 2 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Tom Rutland Portrait Tom Rutland (East Worthing and Shoreham) (Lab)
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1. What recent estimate he has made of the cost to the public purse of fraud and error in Government departments and agencies.

Chris Vince Portrait Chris Vince (Harlow) (Lab/Co-op)
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5. What recent estimate he has made of the cost to the public purse of fraud and error in Government departments and agencies.

Rupa Huq Portrait Dr Rupa Huq (Ealing Central and Acton) (Lab)
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10. What recent estimate he has made of the cost to the public purse of fraud and error in Government departments and agencies.

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Pat McFadden Portrait Pat McFadden
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right to draw attention to what happened during covid, when VIP lanes and dodgy contracts ended up burning through billions of pounds, sometimes for unusable equipment. We will do everything we can to recover money that has been lost, and my Department will work closely with the office of the covid corruption commissioner to oversee that work and try to ensure the best value possible for the taxpayer.

Chris Vince Portrait Chris Vince
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New technology must be at the beating heart of the new Government, and artificial intelligence presents an opportunity to tackle waste and error. The National Audit Office has claimed that the counter-fraud agencies are only just beginning to utilise new technologies in their fight against public sector fraud, and rely on outdated legacy systems and incomplete, time-lagged data. How will the Minister implement new technologies, including AI, to tackle fraud and error in government?

Pat McFadden Portrait Pat McFadden
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right: there is potential for greater use of AI in detecting and rooting out fraud. We want the UK to be an excellent place to develop new uses of AI, both in its public sector applications and the development of private business. There is already a single network analytics platform, which is an AI-based detection tool to help public sector organisations detect fraud, but like many AI applications, we are probably only at the beginning of what can be achieved in this area. We should use every technological tool at our disposal to secure best value for money for the taxpayer.