All 3 Baroness Scott of Bybrook contributions to the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022

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Mon 22nd Nov 2021
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Monday 22nd November 2021

(2 years, 5 months ago)

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Baroness Scott of Bybrook Portrait Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Con)
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My Lords, we will do one more group before the dinner break. I remind noble Lords that we have to get through 14 groups today. That means that we have nine more. Can we try to be a little briefer so that we can get on? We have only one more day on this Bill, so we need to get as far as possible tonight.

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Lord Davies of Stamford Portrait Lord Davies of Stamford (Lab)
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My Lords, I have listened to the debate this afternoon with great pleasure, and I must say with growing agreement with what was said—until I heard the contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, who said that sentencing should be a matter for the Government of the day. That is a very dangerous approach, because it means that sentencing becomes a reflection of the political pressures on the Government of the day. Somebody used the term “auction”. You would get competition between people who were seeking votes from the public in projecting themselves as being tough on crime, and the resulting sentencing guidelines—

Baroness Scott of Bybrook Portrait Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Con)
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I am sorry, but the Minister had already sat down. We can only take a question if it is very short.

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames Portrait Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames (LD)
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My Lords, in those circumstances I think that it is for me to respond. I do not know whether the Minister wishes to respond to any question—although there has not really been a question.

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Baroness Fox of Buckley Portrait Baroness Fox of Buckley (Non-Afl)
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A question was asked earlier about what will happen to people who already have their information—what can we do about that? It is important that drafting takes time; in Committee I spoke about the problem of the drafting of these guidelines and said I wanted good drafting. But I was a bit concerned, as the Minister said that free speech is already protected by the Human Rights Act, but that does not console me because free speech is under attack. We have heard of many instances of where non-crime hate incidents are being used to chill free speech and this—

Baroness Scott of Bybrook Portrait Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Con)
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I remind the noble Baroness that she should not be speaking if she did not speak before the Minister.

Baroness Fox of Buckley Portrait Baroness Fox of Buckley (Non-Afl)
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I did not understand that, and I apologise. The guidelines are reputation destroying and they need to be reviewed.

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Baroness Scott of Bybrook Portrait Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Con)
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My Lords, I beg to move that, with the agreement of the House, we adjourn until 9.15 pm to let the Minister finish her dinner break.

Sitting suspended.