Debates between Baroness Kidron and Lord Stevenson of Balmacara during the 2024 Parliament

Tue 19th Nov 2024

Data (Use and Access) Bill [HL]

Debate between Baroness Kidron and Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
2nd reading
Tuesday 19th November 2024

(2 days, 15 hours ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Stevenson of Balmacara Portrait Lord Stevenson of Balmacara (Lab)
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With respect, it is the narrow question that a number of us have raised. Training the new AI systems is entirely dependent on them being fed vast amounts of material which they can absorb, process and reshape in order to answer questions that are asked of them. That information is to all intents and purposes somebody else’s property. What will happen to resolve the barrier? At the moment, they are not paying for it but just taking it—scraping it.

Baroness Kidron Portrait Baroness Kidron (CB)
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Perhaps I may come in too. Specifically, how does the data protection framework change it? We have had the ICO suggesting that the current framework works perfectly well and that it is the responsibility of the scrapers to let the IP holders know, while the IP holders have not a clue that it is being scraped. It is already scraped and there is no mechanism. I think we are a little confused about what the plan is.