Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill (Third sitting) Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice
None Portrait The Chair
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No. Order. We have two and a half minutes to go. One other hon. Member wants to ask a question. I want them to come in.

Sarah Olney Portrait Sarah Olney (Richmond Park) (LD)
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Q Thank you, Mr Dowd. I have a quick question for Dr Cox. Earlier on, in the context of multidisciplinary teams, you mentioned how important the family of the patient is. There is currently no role in the Bill, as it is currently drafted, for the next of kin or for any family member. Do you think that is a mistake? Is that something we should look to amend?

Dr Cox: I think it is a choice for the patient. It is always a choice for the patient who they want to involve from their social circle, whether that is family or friends. However, I think that if the patient wants the family involved, then they absolutely should be, and they should be part of those conversations and discussions.

None Portrait The Chair
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One last question, very quickly.

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None Portrait The Chair
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Unless there are any more pressing questions—

Sarah Olney Portrait Sarah Olney
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indicated assent.

None Portrait The Chair
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We have one and a half minutes, so it will be a 10-second question and a 20-second answer; unless you can do that, I am going to call it to a close.

Sarah Olney Portrait Sarah Olney
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indicated dissent.

Simon Opher Portrait Dr Opher
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Q Sir Nicholas, I have great sympathy with your position, but how would you frame this law so that it would cover yourself?

Sir Nicholas Mostyn: I would frame the law to define terminal illness in the way that it is defined here in clause 2(1)(a), but where the “person’s death in consequence” is referred to, I would delete clause 2(1)(b) and substitute “suffering intolerably”.

None Portrait The Chair
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Thank you. That brings us to the end of the time allotted for the Committee to ask questions. I thank our witnesses on behalf of the Committee; thank you for your forbearance.

Sarah Olney Portrait Sarah Olney
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On a point of order, Mr Dowd. I had my hand up at the beginning. I was really keen to ask a question in this session because it is pertinent to an amendment that I have tabled. Could you advise how best I can have the opportunity to ask my question?

None Portrait The Chair
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I am more than happy to speak to you afterwards. We have had lots of questions today and I tried to get people in as much as possible, but there has to be an element of self-discipline from the people asking the questions and interrupting. I am happy to facilitate if I possibly can, but I am afraid that there is also a responsibility on Members to look to other Members’ needs.

Examination of Witnesses

Dr Ryan Spielvogel and Dr Jessica Kaan gave evidence.