Debates between Nusrat Ghani and Oliver Dowden during the 2024 Parliament

Tue 3rd Feb 2026

Universal Credit (Removal of Two Child Limit) Bill

Debate between Nusrat Ghani and Oliver Dowden
Oliver Dowden Portrait Sir Oliver Dowden (Hertsmere) (Con)
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The right hon. Gentleman has provoked me into responding. I served in the previous Conservative Government, and I was involved in all those decisions. There was a clear principle behind them: will people take responsibility for their own actions? There are thousands—millions—of people who choose not to have more children because they want to take responsibility for their lives, rather than the state doing so. With this change, the Government are saying to those people, “Not only will the state take responsibility, but you as the individual will have to pay for it through higher taxes.” That is the principle at stake here, and the Government are reversing a clear principled position taken by the last Government.

Nusrat Ghani Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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Order. Before the Secretary of State responds, let me say that there are many colleagues in the Chamber and I can understand how passionate this debate is, but let us try to keep the noise down when colleagues are contributing.

Building Homes

Debate between Nusrat Ghani and Oliver Dowden
Thursday 12th December 2024

(1 year, 2 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Nusrat Ghani Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Ms Nusrat Ghani)
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Order. Unless questions are kept short, colleagues will not be able to get in, so think about everybody in the Chamber.

Oliver Dowden Portrait Sir Oliver Dowden (Hertsmere) (Con)
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I know that the Minister is a man of considerable integrity, so can he be honest with my constituents about the fact that the combination of mandatory targets, a massive increase in those mandatory targets and the fig leaf of the grey belt policy means that in a constituency like mine, which is almost entirely green belt, apart from that which is developed on, there will be massive new development, an expansion of London sprawl and a change in the character of the area forever?