Child Prisoners and Detainees: Occupied Palestinian Territories Debate

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Department: Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office

Child Prisoners and Detainees: Occupied Palestinian Territories

Naz Shah Excerpts
Wednesday 6th January 2016

(8 years, 10 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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Naz Shah Portrait Naz Shah (Bradford West) (Lab)
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I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Rotherham (Sarah Champion) on securing this very important debate, and it is a great honour to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Chope.

I will keep my speech very brief. The hon. Member for Brigg and Goole (Andrew Percy) referred to a doll. I would argue that people do not need dolls to promote hate and violence. What we have before us in Israel and Palestine is children between the ages of nine and 12 experiencing discrimination. I have children of my own who are aged eight and 11, but I cannot begin to imagine the trauma and the stamp on Palestinian children’s brains and hearts of hatred towards the Israeli military as they grow up and face discrimination, as well as the way they are tret in custody. So I would argue that we do not need props.

Only recently, Shin Bet told the Israeli Government that Abbas was not encouraging terror and was actually promoting peace. So, I disagree with my hon. Friends when they say that the Palestinians are promoting this kind of propaganda.

Guto Bebb Portrait Guto Bebb
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Will the hon. Member give way?

Naz Shah Portrait Naz Shah
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No, I will not, because I will not speak for long.

As a former chair of a mental health charity and having my own children, I really struggle to understand why the Israeli Government and the world are silent on dealing with the trauma that these Palestinian children are growing up with. Surely we know that hate breeds hate; laws aside, that is just common sense. There are children who are blindfolded and tortured. We have got evidence before us. How can my hon. Friends ignore that? How can anyone even present a counter-argument to it? We are talking about the basic humanitarian right of children, which we in this House have signed up to, and we must support these children with conviction. There should be no excuse for taking children aged nine away from their homes, detaining them and sending them to prison. That is absolutely unacceptable.

Louise Ellman Portrait Mrs Ellman
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I note my hon. Friend’s comments that a child should not be detained, and I assume that she means in any circumstances. Suppose a child was involved in an act of violence that resulted in the deaths of other human beings. That is what has happened with young Palestinians throwing stones—people have been killed. In those circumstances, surely she thinks that there should be detention.

Naz Shah Portrait Naz Shah
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rose—

Christopher Chope Portrait Mr Christopher Chope (in the Chair)
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Order. I thought that the hon. Member for Bradford West (Naz Shah) had finished her speech, but—

Naz Shah Portrait Naz Shah
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Can I just respond to that question, Chair?

Christopher Chope Portrait Mr Christopher Chope (in the Chair)
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I will allow the hon. Lady to respond, and then we will go on to the next speech.

Naz Shah Portrait Naz Shah
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I will respond very briefly. The fact is that the disproportionality of someone throwing a stone or a rock and being detained for it is not acceptable. That is the reality of what is happening with children.

Lord Austin of Dudley Portrait Ian Austin
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Last February, four-year-old Adele Biton died after being critically injured by youths in a stone-throwing incident. I am just as worried as my hon. Friend is about the detention of children, but she should not minimise the crimes and violence that are taking place on the other side as well.

Naz Shah Portrait Naz Shah
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I will finish by clearly making the point that the Israeli Government have not provided any evidence of any child causing a death, or contributing to a death, using a stone. There is no evidence of that.