Covid Counter-Fraud Commissioner Debate

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Department: HM Treasury

Covid Counter-Fraud Commissioner

Lord Scriven Excerpts
Wednesday 5th February 2025

(1 day, 15 hours ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I am grateful to my noble friend for his question, but obviously, I cannot say what criminal activity may be uncovered. Certain proceedings and investigations are already ongoing. We would not want to prejudice those proceedings, and nor would the commissioner, but my noble friend is right to say that the commissioner should be allowed to do his work.

Lord Scriven Portrait Lord Scriven (LD)
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My Lords, does the Minister agree that the person investigating must have as much transparency as possible? During this sorry affair, whenever we asked questions, the last Government kept coming back to commercial sensitivity. That excuse should not be used: the public should know how their taxes are being used.

Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I completely agree with the noble Lord. The underlying point he is making is that we should be able to understand where taxpayers’ money has gone and to recover as much of that as possible, so that it is not lining the fraudsters’ pockets but is funding our public services. That is absolutely what the commissioner’s work is about: identifying where that money has gone and trying to recover as much of it as possible.