Economy and Jobs Debate

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Department: HM Treasury

Economy and Jobs

Jeremy Quin Excerpts
Thursday 29th June 2017

(7 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede Portrait Mr Hammond
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I have just explained to the House—and I am sure that the hon. Gentleman heard—that it would not be legally possible for us to leave the EU and stay in the single market. It is simply not an option.

Jeremy Quin Portrait Jeremy Quin
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede Portrait Mr Hammond
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I am happy to give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Horsham (Jeremy Quin).

Jeremy Quin Portrait Jeremy Quin
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Helen Goodman Portrait Helen Goodman
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker.

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Lord Hammond of Runnymede Portrait Mr Hammond
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Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Horsham.

Jeremy Quin Portrait Jeremy Quin
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I am most grateful that the Chancellor is now taking my intervention. May I take him back to the discussion on amendment (l)? About six interventions ago, he was patiently explaining to the shadow Chancellor the risks to cashflows of nationalising all these wonderful businesses and the huge cost to the taxpayer that would result. I hope that the shadow Chancellor has been suitably educated. Will my right hon. Friend also educate the shadow Chancellor on the point that the total amount of our debt will have an impact on our borrowing costs? They are high enough already, but they could get a lot worse. The shadow Chancellor’s friends who run the Greek and Portuguese economies know about high borrowing costs.

Lord Hammond of Runnymede Portrait Mr Hammond
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My hon. Friend makes an important point. The shadow Chancellor often talks about borrowing costs being low and about this being an ideal time to borrow more, but if he ever got his hands anywhere near the levers of power, with his programme of massively increased borrowing, we would soon see our debt interest costs soaring. That would mean yet more of our hard-earned taxpayers’ money being paid to the lenders.

Let me summarise where I have got to on Labour’s programme. The shadow Chancellor has a small problem with arithmetic. The Institute for Fiscal Studies found a £2.2 billion arithmetical error in his manifesto costings. We have identified a £90 billion black hole in Labour’s spending plans that would have to be funded by higher taxation on ordinary families, £250 billion of planned borrowing, and £120 billion—and some—for the nationalisation, which would all be added to our debt. So, just as our national debt is about to start falling as a share of GDP, the Labour party wants to add at least £370 billion to the pile.