Debates between James Murray and Blake Stephenson during the 2024 Parliament

Tue 28th Jan 2025
Finance Bill (First sitting)
Public Bill Committees

Committee stage: 1st sitting & Committee stage
Tue 28th Jan 2025

Office for Budget Responsibility Forecasts

Debate between James Murray and Blake Stephenson
Monday 1st December 2025

(8 months, 2 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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James Murray Portrait James Murray
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The Chancellor obviously spoke to Cabinet on the day of the Budget, as is the normal process, to let them know what was coming in the Budget later that day.

Blake Stephenson Portrait Blake Stephenson (Mid Bedfordshire) (Con)
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The Chief Secretary to the Treasury failed to answer a critical question raised by my right hon. Friend the shadow Chancellor and a similar question raised by the hon. Member for St Albans (Daisy Cooper), so I will ask the question in a slightly different way. Does the Minister agree that the FCA must urgently investigate whether conduct has fallen short of, in particular, part 7 of the Financial Services Act 2012 and article 12(1)(c) of the UK market abuse regulation, and does he agree that no stone should be left unturned in that investigation?

James Murray Portrait James Murray
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The Chancellor has now delivered her Budget, and the Office for Budget Responsibility has published its figures. We have been clear that we were focused on cutting the cost of living, cutting NHS waiting lists and cutting Government borrowing.

Finance Bill (First sitting)

Debate between James Murray and Blake Stephenson
James Murray Portrait James Murray
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I thank the shadow Minister for his questions and his support for the clause. He mentioned a question that the ATT raised about the interaction between the extension of the 100% first-year allowance we are proposing, particularly for charge points, and the context of full expensing in the annual investment allowance. For businesses that are investing over the annual investment allowance limit, there may be circumstances where, if the first year allowance were not extended as it is by these clauses, some investment in EV charge point equipment would qualify for only a 50% first-year allowance rather than 100% full expensing. The Government want to support investment in EV charge point infrastructure by providing full relief for investment in equipment for EV charge points. That is why we have introduced this measure.

The shadow Minister asked for a specific figure. I do not have that to hand, but I am happy to look into what information is available and get back to him. More broadly, the 100% first-year allowance was due to expire in April 2025. This conversation has echoes of an earlier discussion we had around retail, hospitality and leisure business rates relief, and reliefs or allowances that we inherited and which are due to expire in April 2025. We have decided to extend this, and the reason why is to help support businesses and individuals who are buying or making electric vehicles and associated infrastructure. We see this as one of a series of measures to support the EV transition. It has come up in relation to a number of clauses, so I think it is clear to the Committee that the Government are pursuing a range of different interventions and policies to carefully calibrate the right level of Government support.

Blake Stephenson Portrait Blake Stephenson (Mid Bedfordshire) (Con)
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In the interest of providing certainty, would the Minister explain why the Government did not choose a multi-year allowance on this, rather than going for an extension of only one year?

James Murray Portrait James Murray
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As I was saying, we are seeking to calibrate the incentives carefully for the transition to EVs to support manufacturers and consumers and to give as much certainty as possible, while making sure that we have the right support in different parts of the tax system to provide value for money and support the transition in the right way. It is not a question of a single measure being responsible for supporting the transition. This relies on manufacturers and consumers playing their part, but the Government need to play their role, too, which is why this measure sits alongside others we have debated, including those that are not part of the Finance Bill but are part of the Government’s broader agenda. Collectively, they will support this transition.

Question put and agreed to.

Clause 23 accordingly ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Clause 24 ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Clause 25

Commercial letting of furnished holiday accommodation

Question proposed, That the clause stand part of the Bill.

Finance Bill (Second sitting)

Debate between James Murray and Blake Stephenson
Blake Stephenson Portrait Blake Stephenson (Mid Bedfordshire) (Con)
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I think Opposition Members are somewhat confused. The Chancellor committed to bringing an amendment forward. I know that the Minister says it will be tabled at a later stage, but why is it so complex that it cannot be considered today, so that it can be scrutinised by the Opposition?

James Murray Portrait James Murray
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At the risk of repeating myself, amendments are routinely brought forward in Committee and on Report, and they are scrutinised at both stages of the Bill. The intention is to make sure that the legislation is in the best possible place by the time it gets to Third Reading and receives Royal Assent.

The focus for us is to make sure that this legislation works as well as possible. We are pragmatic about that; we want to make sure that it functions effectively. That is why we are making technical changes by way of Government amendments today, and why there will be further amendments on Report to make the system simpler and more generous, in the way that the Chancellor has set out.

This is about achieving a system that makes the tax system both fairer, in the ways that we have set out, and as simple and attractive as possible for people who want to come to the UK and bring their money to the UK, to invest and spend it here, which will help us to grow the economy.

Question put and agreed to.

Clause 40 accordingly ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Schedule 9

Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax: Remittance Basis and Domicile

Amendments made: 55, in schedule 9, page 208, line 24, leave out “sections 56(5)(a), 61G(5)(a) and 61R(5)(a)” and insert “sections 56, 61G and 61R”

This amendment together with Amendment 56 omits subsections that have become redundant in light of the ending of the relevance of domicile to income tax.

Amendment 56, in schedule 9, page 208, line 25, leave out from “payment)” to end of line 27 and insert “, omit subsections (4) and (5).”

This amendment together with Amendment 55 omits subsections that have become redundant in light of the ending of the relevance of domicile to income tax.

Amendment 57, in schedule 9, page 210, line 34, at end insert—

“Premium trust funds

21A In section 174 of FA 1993 (premium trust funds), omit subsection (6)(a).

FOTRA securities

21B (1) In section 22 of F(No.2)A 1931 (Treasury power to issue securities with a FOTRA condition)—

(a) in subsection (1)(b), for “persons who are neither domiciled nor resident in the United Kingdom” substitute “exempt persons”;

(b) after subsection (1) insert—

“(1A) For the purposes of subsection (1), the following persons are “exempt persons”—

(a) individuals who are not resident in the United Kingdom, and

(b) persons who are not individuals and are neither domiciled nor resident in the United Kingdom.”

(2) In section 154 of FA 1996 (FOTRA securities), in subsection (1)—

(a) after “applies,” insert “where the person with the beneficial ownership of the securities is not an individual and”;

(b) for “the person with beneficial ownership of the securities” substitute “that person”.

(3) Any security issued before 29th April 1996 with a FOTRA condition shall be treated in relation to times on or after 6 April 2025 as if—

(a) it were a security issued with the post-1996 FOTRA conditions (and with no other FOTRA condition), and

(b) the post-1996 FOTRA conditions had been authorised in relation to the issue of that security by virtue of section 22 of F(No.2)A 1931.

(4) In sub-paragraph (3) —

“a FOTRA condition” means a condition about exemption from taxation authorised by section 22 of F(No.2)A 1931;

“the post-1996 FOTRA conditions” means the conditions about exemption from taxation with which 7.25% Treasury Stock 2007 was first issued by virtue of section 22 of F(No.2)A 1931.”

Amendment 58, in schedule 9, page 210, line 34, at end insert—

“Reliefs in respect of income from investments etc. of certain pension schemes

21C In section 614 of the Income and Corporation Taxes Act 1988 (exemptions and reliefs in respect of income from investments etc. of certain pension schemes), in subsections (4) and (5), omit “not domiciled and”.”—(James Murray.)

This amendment removes references to domicile in provisions of the Income and Corporation Taxes Act 1988 relating to relief on income from investments of certain pension schemes.

Schedule 9, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 41 ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Schedule 10

Temporary repatriation facility

Amendment made: 59, in schedule 10, page 214, line 6, leave out paragraph (a) and insert—

“(a) Part 2 of this Schedule (exemptions etc for designated qualifying overseas capital),”—(James Murray.)

This amendment corrects an incorrect reference.

Schedule 10, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 42 ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Schedule 11 agreed to.

Clause 43

Trusts: connected amendments, transitional provision etc

Question proposed, That the clause stand part of the Bill.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between James Murray and Blake Stephenson
Tuesday 29th October 2024

(1 year, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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James Murray Portrait The Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury (James Murray)
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As hon. Members know, any changes to tax policy will be set out in tomorrow’s Budget. Members will also know that our approach to fixing the foundations of the economy will be one that protects working people. This Labour Government will honour our commitment to protect working people by not increasing national insurance, basic, higher or additional rates of income tax, or VAT.

Blake Stephenson Portrait Blake Stephenson
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The Government have got into an absolute pickle over the definition of working people. People deserve certainty. In Mid Bedfordshire, we are proud of the hard work of the owners of nearly 5,000 small businesses. They are working people creating jobs and growing our economy, and all while providing for their families. They are lying awake at night worrying about yet higher taxes. Will the Chancellor give them a peaceful night’s sleep ahead of tomorrow’s Budget and confirm that she will honour her manifesto commitment not to raise taxes on them?

James Murray Portrait James Murray
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I do not think I am pre-empting anything tomorrow by confirming that the Chancellor will absolutely stick to our commitment not to raise taxes on working people through national insurance, the basic, higher or additional rates of income tax, or VAT. And I might add that what people and businesses in the hon. Gentleman’s constituency might want is stability in the economy, a Government who support investment in the economy, and a Government who will get the economy growing and make people across Britain better off.