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Department: Home Office

Oral Answers to Questions

Caroline Nokes Excerpts
Monday 29th October 2018

(5 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Marion Fellows Portrait Marion Fellows (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)
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7. What assessment he has made of the effect on Scotland of ending free movement of people with the EU.

Caroline Nokes Portrait The Minister for Immigration (Caroline Nokes)
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After the UK leaves the EU, free movement will end. In a recent report, the Independent Migration Advisory Committee concluded that the economic impacts of EU migration had been “relatively small”, with “limited regional variation”. As we leave the EU, we will create a single global immigration system that works in the interests of the whole United Kingdom.

Philippa Whitford Portrait Dr Whitford
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Ending freedom of movement will have a major impact on the health and social care sector, which employs high numbers of EU nationals, and the tier 2 visa threshold of £30,000 is far more than any social care worker earns. Do the Secretary of State and Minister not recognise that wealth is not the same as worth?

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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We have been very clear that employers should take all possible steps to reduce their reliance on low-skilled migrant labour. The MAC does have serious concerns, however, about the social care sector and is clear that this sector needs a policy wider than just migration policy to fix its many problems. The MAC report has given us some sound advice, but the Home Office continues to discuss with all sectors, with business leaders and indeed with the devolved Governments so that we can come forward with an immigration policy that works for the whole country.

Marion Fellows Portrait Marion Fellows
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As someone who has recently been the beneficiary of care and care support, I would refute what the Minister has just said. Scottish Government analysis published in February estimates that real GDP in Scotland will be 4.5% lower by 2040 than it would otherwise have been, as a result of lower migration. Does the Minister agree that this is why immigration powers must be devolved to Scotland, so that Scotland can create a system that is fair and that meets our needs and values?

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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The Government have been repeatedly clear that immigration policy remains a reserved matter. Four years ago the people of Scotland confirmed in a referendum that they wanted to remain part of the United Kingdom and we will deliver an immigration policy for every part of the UK.

Robert Goodwill Portrait Mr Robert Goodwill (Scarborough and Whitby) (Con)
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There are 115,000 people looking for work in Scotland. Does the Minister think it would be a good idea if the Scottish Government did more to help those people to acquire the skills they need to get into the workplace and build the Scottish economy, rather than just ship in more people from beyond our shores?

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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I thank my right hon. Friend for his question. It is crucial that we work across the whole of government—through our modern industrial strategy, the Department for Education, local government and the devolved Administrations—to make sure that we provide the opportunities for young people across the whole economy so that they can find work.

David Duguid Portrait David Duguid (Banff and Buchan) (Con)
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I welcome the news that free movement will be replaced with a single control system based on people’s skills, not where they come from. Can my right hon. Friend reassure me that the future system will both facilitate the supply of foreign labour where there is a domestic shortage and complement the Government-wide approach to domestic skills to tackle the shortages where they can be addressed by upskilling UK workers?

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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My hon. Friend makes an important point. Our first priority must be upskilling UK workers and making sure they can move into the vacancies that we know are there. My hon. Friend is always diligent in promoting the interests of businesses in Scotland, which might find it difficult to acquire the labour they need. I will be delighted to work with him in that respect.

Joanna Cherry Portrait Joanna Cherry (Edinburgh South West) (SNP)
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The Scottish Government’s analysis shows that the average EU citizen working in Scotland contributes £10,400 per annum to Government revenue and £34,400 per annum to GDP. What plans have the UK Government made to mitigate the adverse economic impact on Scotland as a result of the UK Government’s decision to end free movement?

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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The hon. and learned Lady will be conscious that an immigration White Paper will be coming forward very soon, but it is crucial that we reflect on the advice given to us by the independent Migration Advisory Committee, which made the point that there were only limited regional variations.

Joanna Cherry Portrait Joanna Cherry
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I am very conscious of the much heralded and long awaited White Paper. However— the Minister may not know this—a nationally representative survey conducted by British Future and Hope not Hate shows that nearly two thirds of people in Scotland think the Scottish Government should have the power to decide which visas are issued to people who want to work in Scotland. Will the Minister meet me in advance of the White Paper to discuss how it will address the wishes and needs of the people of Scotland?

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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I gently remind the hon. and learned Lady that Scotland will be part of a single immigration policy for the whole United Kingdom, however strongly she might argue against that, but I will be delighted to meet her after the White Paper is published, because we do not want the White Paper to be the end of the conversation, and we will still be asking business and industry leaders, representative groups, stakeholders and the devolved Administrations to give us their views.

Danielle Rowley Portrait Danielle Rowley (Midlothian) (Lab)
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5. What assessment he has made of the adequacy of the Government’s EU settlement scheme.

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Alison Thewliss Portrait Alison Thewliss (Glasgow Central) (SNP)
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8. What progress his Department is making on establishing the new UKVI service and support centres.

Caroline Nokes Portrait The Minister for Immigration (Caroline Nokes)
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On 30 November, UKVI’s existing premium service centres will close to undergo refurbishment and conversion to service and support centres. Home Office staff will be given tailored training sessions, enabling them to best serve customers’ needs when the centres reopen in January 2019.

Alison Thewliss Portrait Alison Thewliss
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Delays in Home Office decision making have been a feature of just about every surgery that I have ever held. Given the recent announcement that some services will be outsourced to Sopra Steria—the same company that managed to lose half a million NHS documents—and the experience that we have had with Serco in Glasgow, will the Minister tell me how on earth this privatisation agenda will help my constituents?

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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It will help the hon. Lady’s constituents by providing a transformed experience for those who may need more face-to-face interaction or help with their applications. At the free appointments, customers will meet experienced frontline staff to help UKVI better to understand their circumstances, take appropriate safeguarding action and validate their documents.

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Chris Stephens Portrait Chris Stephens (Glasgow South West) (SNP)
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13. What steps he is taking to ensure that asylum seekers are adequately maintained and accommodated; and if he will make a statement.

Caroline Nokes Portrait The Minister for Immigration (Caroline Nokes)
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The Government are committed to protecting the rights of asylum seekers and to ensuring that those who would otherwise be destitute are provided with accommodation and other support to meet their essential living needs. We continue to work closely with local government, the devolved Administrations, the private sector and civil society to make improvements to the services that are provided.

Chris Stephens Portrait Chris Stephens
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The Minister will be aware that, following a legal challenge in Scotland’s Supreme Court by two of my constituents and Govan Law Centre, Serco undertook to put its lock-change evictions on hold. Is she aware that Serco is verbally threatening my constituents with lock-change evictions? Does she agree that that is completely unacceptable, and will she investigate?

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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It is important that the Home Office continues to work with Serco, Glasgow City Council and non-governmental organisation partners as part of a dedicated taskforce to make sure that all those individuals who are no longer entitled to asylum support or accommodation are managed appropriately. The hon. Gentleman is of course right to point out that, following his constituents’ legal challenge, no service users have been evicted while the appeal is ongoing.

Bambos Charalambous Portrait Bambos Charalambous (Enfield, Southgate) (Lab)
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14. What recent assessment he has made of the adequacy of police funding.

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Sandy Martin Portrait Sandy Martin (Ipswich) (Lab)
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T2. What progress has the Minister made in compensating Windrush victims who have been made homeless and jobless by the Government’s hostile environment project?

Caroline Nokes Portrait The Minister for Immigration (Caroline Nokes)
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for that question. He will know that Martin Forde QC recently asked the Government, and we agreed, to extend the consultation period for the compensation scheme so that we can make sure that we get the best responses possible and so that he can engage more widely with the community. In exceptional circumstances, the Home Office has already made payments to some individuals.

Steve Double Portrait Steve Double (St Austell and Newquay) (Con)
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Meat and fish processing businesses in my constituency rely heavily on migrant workers. Many of their staff are highly skilled even though their skill is not formally recognised by a qualification. What steps are the Government taking to make sure that these sorts of skills are properly recognised in our future immigration policy?

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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I think that sentence contained quite a lot of semi-colons.

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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I share the hon. Lady’s admiration for small and medium-sized businesses the country over. The immigration system already facilitates recruitment of foreign graduates of UK universities by waiving many of the usual requirements. We will shortly be setting out our plans for the future immigration system, following the recent report by the Migration Advisory Committee.

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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I hope the Minister heard her hon. Friend.

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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indicated assent.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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She did. Otherwise we would have to have a reprise.

Caroline Nokes Portrait Caroline Nokes
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I thank my hon. Friend for her question. I was delighted to go to her constituency over the summer to meet soft fruit farmers who made a compelling case for a seasonal workers scheme. She will no doubt be delighted that the Government are having a pilot in the horticultural sector to make sure that it can access the labour that it needs.

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