Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Department for Transport

Oral Answers to Questions

Andrew Stephenson Excerpts
Monday 18th May 2020

(3 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Kevin Hollinrake Portrait Kevin Hollinrake (Thirsk and Malton) (Con)
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What steps he is taking to increase spending on transport infrastructure in the English regions.

Andrew Stephenson Portrait The Minister of State, Department for Transport (Andrew Stephenson) [V]
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It is a great joy to join you from sunny Pendle, Mr Speaker.

We are investing in transport infrastructure to level up the United Kingdom, with £500 million to reverse the Beeching cuts and £5 billion extra support for buses and cycling.

Kevin Hollinrake Portrait Kevin Hollinrake
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Some of us do not have those hair problems, Mr Speaker.

Will the Minister confirm his commitment to investment right across the north—not just the big projects, such as northern powerhouse rail, from the east coast through the west coast, but the smaller but no less important projects, such as the dualling of the A64 in my constituency?

Andrew Stephenson Portrait Andrew Stephenson
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I am happy to provide my hon. Friend with that reassurance. The integrated rail plan is looking at various transport investments in the north, and we very much intend that still to report by the end of this year. On the dualling of the A64, I can assure him that that is now officially in the road investment strategy 3 pipeline, and it will be investigated carefully as we prepare to make decisions for the next strategy.

Kerry McCarthy Portrait Kerry McCarthy (Bristol East) (Lab) [V]
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It is so good to see so many cities and towns now putting in place infrastructure to support active travel, particularly cycling, but not everyone can work or cycle to work, not everyone has a car and no one wants the new normal to be cars clogging up the streets and despoiling the clean air. Why are the Government not working with city regions and other councils on a safety-led scaling up of passenger transport, why did they not talk to local leaders about public transport before urging a return to work and why is there a support package for Transport for London but not for other major cities?

Andrew Stephenson Portrait Andrew Stephenson
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We are working closely with all the metro Mayors and the devolved mayoral combined authorities to get this policy right. It is incorrect to say that we have provided support only for Transport for London. As was talked about in Treasury questions, we have already provided significant support for things such as the Manchester Metrolink and other schemes. It is right to say, though, that we need to ensure that inclusive travel is at the forefront of this, and there is a huge amount of work under way in the Department to ensure that disabled people particularly, are able to return safely to work and use the public transport network that so many depend on.

Bambos Charalambous Portrait Bambos Charalambous (Enfield, Southgate) (Lab)
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What recent steps he has taken to protect (a) public transport drivers and (b) other public transport workers during the covid-19 outbreak.

Julie Elliott Portrait Julie Elliott (Sunderland Central) (Lab)
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What recent steps he has taken to protect (a) public transport drivers and (b) other public transport workers during the covid-19 outbreak.

Andrew Stephenson Portrait The Minister of State, Department for Transport (Andrew Stephenson) [V]
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I pay tribute to all public transport drivers and workers, who have been working incredibly hard to ensure that those on the frontline can get to work. New safer transport guidance was published on 12 May, and we are working closely with transport operators across the sector on its implementation.

Bambos Charalambous Portrait Bambos Charalambous
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Last week’s figures from the Office for National Statistics show that public transport drivers have one of the highest covid-19-related death rates compared with other professions. With the Government encouraging people to go back to work and many workers having no choice but to use public transport, what extra measures have the Government taken to protect drivers and other public transport workers?

Andrew Stephenson Portrait Andrew Stephenson
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his question. The safety of public transport workers is of course paramount for the Government, and we have been working with operators to ensure that additional measures are put in place. These include risk assessments, looking at who should be at work, social distancing and face coverings, workforce planning, queue and passenger flow management, and the way that emergency incidents are dealt with, in addition to cleaning ventilation, communications and other forms of training.

Clive Lewis Portrait Clive Lewis [V]
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[Inaudible.]

Julie Elliott Portrait Julie Elliott [V]
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I thank the Minister for his answer. To protect public transport workers’ safety, they need job security. The Government’s funding arrangement runs out with the Metro and Nexus on 9 June, so it is fine that risk assessments are taking place, but we need the trains to run. Can the Government tell me when the arrangements will be made with the Metro and Nexus to allow our crucial Metro system to carry on running?

Andrew Stephenson Portrait Andrew Stephenson
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We continue to work with the metro Mayors to look at these issues, and we work closely, in conjunction with Treasury Ministers, to ensure that the funding necessary is provided and that we can support public transport networks right across the length and breadth of the United Kingdom.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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We now come to Jim McMahon. I congratulate him on his new job.

Jim McMahon Portrait Jim McMahon (Oldham West and Royton) (Lab/Co-op)
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Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. May I start by paying tribute to our frontline transport workers, and may I offer my condolences to the families of those who have lost their lives through covid-19?

The latest advice from the Government now explicitly rules out providing personal protective equipment, such as face masks, to drivers, instead reserving them for health and social care workers. The response on this is that the health advice apparently does not support it. If the evidence says that masks will not save them, gloves will not save them and banning the handling of cash will not save them, that begs the question: what will save them, given that transport workers, including bus drivers, are more likely to die from covid-19 than the general population? Can that evidence be provided to the House of Commons Library so that it can be properly looked at and investigated? We cannot allow transport workers on the frontline, working to keep our country moving, to face a greater risk than the general population.

Andrew Stephenson Portrait Andrew Stephenson
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I start by welcoming the shadow Secretary of State to his position. It continues to be Public Health England advice that face masks are not necessary outside clinical settings or where Health and Safety Executive employer risk assessments suggest that it would be necessary to protect against non-covid-19 risks. However, workers should refer to the guidance, which I mentioned, when considering whether wearing a face covering would be appropriate and they should consider using a face covering when social distancing is not possible.

Edward Leigh Portrait Sir Edward Leigh (Gainsborough) (Con)
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What recent discussions his Department has had with LNER on a direct rail service between Grimsby and London.

Andrew Stephenson Portrait The Minister of State, Department for Transport (Andrew Stephenson) [V]
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Recent analysis by LNER indicates that such a service could be viable and the Department is exploring this further.

Lindsay Hoyle Portrait Mr Speaker
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We now go, with audio only, to Sir Edward.

Edward Leigh Portrait Sir Edward Leigh [V]
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Mr Speaker, I am sorry that you do not have a picture because the broadband in rural Lincolnshire is so bad. That is why it is even more important that we get our through train from Grimsby and Cleethorpes down to London, which we have been promised again and again. It is a huge catchment area. All the Government have to do is to kick-start this project. Given that they are spending £100 billion on HS2, if they just give us £1 million, LNER will give us the through train. Will the Government fulfil their promises and kick-start the through train to London from Grimsby and Cleethorpes?

Andrew Stephenson Portrait Andrew Stephenson
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My right hon. Friend has lobbied me on this several times already. I know that the rail Minister, my hon. Friend the Member for Daventry (Chris Heaton-Harris), is looking very closely at what my right hon. Friend says, and hopefully he may have some good news in due course.

Gareth Johnson Portrait Gareth Johnson (Dartford) (Con)
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What steps he has taken to protect rail passengers from financial loss during the covid-19 outbreak.