Devolution (Immigration) (Scotland) Bill Debate

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Department: Scotland Office

Devolution (Immigration) (Scotland) Bill

Amanda Martin Excerpts
Friday 25th April 2025

(1 day, 18 hours ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Murray Portrait Ian Murray
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It astounds me that the leader of the Scottish National party in this place, the right hon. Member for Aberdeen South, has GB Energy headquartered in his own constituency but voted against it. SNP Members voted against the extra £4.9 billion in the Budget, and they stand against nuclear power. Those three examples show why Scotland needs to take a new direction at the election next year.

Amanda Martin Portrait Amanda Martin (Portsmouth North) (Lab)
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Does the Secretary of State agree that the list of things that SNP Members oppose includes jobs being created in that constituency?

Ian Murray Portrait Ian Murray
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With GB Energy, and indeed with the green revolution going on across the globe, my ambition is not just that Scotland will play a part, but that it will win the global race. It is well placed to do so, with first mover advantage. The things this Government have done—setting a mission for clean power by 2030, setting up and capitalising GB Energy and having a National Wealth Fund—are all part of making sure that Scotland wins that global race, and of creating the jobs of the future.

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Meg Hillier Portrait Dame Meg Hillier
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Indeed. My hon. Friend was not an MP when we were discussing Brexit, but oh my word, there was a lack of thought about the issues with the land border prior to that. Madam Deputy Speaker, you may recall that when the former Prime Minister, now Baroness May, was proposing her Brexit deal, only 17% of Members of Parliament had been Members of Parliament when the Northern Ireland agreement was signed, so there was a distinct lack of understanding in this place. We all expect and hope that Members will read into these issues, but often that got missed, and there was a distinct lack of understanding about the border. We do not want to go down that route again.

Amanda Martin Portrait Amanda Martin
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As well as the concerns around Brexit, there is the Gibraltar-Spain border, which we are still in the process of dealing with, despite the previous Government.

Meg Hillier Portrait Dame Meg Hillier
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Absolutely. A lot of tripe was talked at the time about having virtual borders. Even with some of the tensions between Scotland and the UK, which were evident in what SNP Members said earlier, we are not, I hope, at the point where we would have watchtowers and border guards with guns, but once we have a border, that is a risk.