(3Â months, 3Â weeks ago)
Commons ChamberI will move on, but before I do so, I will say something that I think any fair-minded person will know. Presumably the job of being Prime Minister means that there is so much on your desk, and if someone comes to you and says, âDonât worry about this, Iâll take it and sort itâ, there is a temptation to go, âOkay, you do that, because I have 7,000 other things that I have to deal with today.â I do not knowâI have never been Prime Ministerâbut I would assume that that is the reality of the situation.
The question is how somebody who is so manifestly inappropriate gets appointed. It may be that those behaving in this way did so because they felt under huge amounts of political pressure, but how does someone whose case was of high concern and for whom it was recommended that clearance be denied become interpreted as a borderline case, leaning against? How do we bridge that gap? The only way that gap is bridged is through mitigations, so I spend my time looking for mitigations, and I cannot find any. Ian Collard, who was one of the security men speaking to Olly Robbinsâwho, at the time, was the permanent under-secretaryâmentioned the importance of mitigations 10 times in his written evidence to us, and Olly Robbins talked about it six times. It is at the forefront of their evidence.
I have already referred to an aide-mĂ©moire that Ian Collard made in September. He says that he looked again at the summary. He accepts that UKSVâs statement was
ââthis case presents as a high concernâ with a recommendation of âclearance denied or withdrawnââ,
and he
ânoted that, as well as the tick boxesââ
red tick-boxes, which were tickedâ
âUKSV stated in the final case assessment: âOverall, I believe that this is a very borderline caseâŠIf a clearance was awarded to the individual by the Department, it is recommended that a very robust risk management model is put in placeââ.
I do not know whether that is just Ian Collardâs memory of what he may or may not have readâwell, I know that he did not read it, because he says that he did not read it at that stage. I do not understand how the UKSV paper can say, âDonât give him the jobâ, and then it can also be believed to be a very borderline case with robust risk management recommended. I suspect that the latter bit is an interpretationâa way in which, it was hoped, the difficulty that Mandelson was essentially being refused vetting could be slid over into âHe can be given the job, so long as there are robust mitigations.â
But where are those mitigations? When Sir Olly gave evidence to our Committee, I said to him,
âI do not really follow why you would not know the contents of the UKSV document and their concerns or even that they said that there was high concern about Peter Mandelson. I do not understand how you can not know that if you are considering what the mitigations are. You cannot have the mitigations without knowing what the problem is.â
He said,
âThe risks were explained to me, but I have not seen the underlying documentation. That is what I am saying. That obviously strikes members of the Committee as oddââ
well, it certainly didâ
âbut in all my years as a civil servantâmany of them as a relatively senior oneâI have never seen a UKSV document, other than the ones that I have filled in myself.â
It is ridiculous. If he is putting down mitigations in order to deal with legitimate concerns and a security threat, he needs to know what that security threat is, and to understand that UKSV is saying that it is very serious and that Mandelson should not be given the jobâyet he says, âI didnât know. I just thought it was borderline, leaning the other way.â I mean, this is Alice in Wonderland.
The right hon. Lady is making an important series of points. Does she not also think that the fact that the vetting was not done before Mandelson arrived in Washington, as we now know, means that somebody was in post in Washington seeing highly classified information which he was not fit to see, because there were no mitigations in place, even though the process subsequently threw up the fact that he would need them? Of course, as she is saying, he probably should not have had the job, given that the mitigations were warranted.
I really do not know. The Foreign Office got the UKSV clearance on 29 January 2025, and it says that it did something about it, but we cannot see what that is. An email on page 72 of part I is the nearest thing to mitigations I have been able to find, and Ian Collard referred to it in his evidence. It is an email he wrote on 30 January, and I think it is the mitigations, but I just do not think it is a robust set of mitigations to deal with serious security concerns. The email states:
âAs part of the usual clearance policy process, UKSV identified some areas in his application for ESND to reviewââ
that is the security man.
âI understand that Lord Mandelsonâs private sector engagements are being managed by HRDââ
that is human resourcesâ
âand the Legal Directorate through the conflict of interest process.â
Who knows? It continues:
âWith regard to personal conductââ
I think that is hanging out with oligarchs, being friends with the Finance Minister, borrowing money and who knows what elseâ
âI understand that Lord Mandelson has received a letter from Mervyn Thomas, informing him of his responsibilities as an FCDO employee, including under the Diplomatic Service Regulations.â
Is that it? He got a letter from a man telling him to behave himself! We have not seen the letter, and I do not know what it is. The email continues:
âMatters pertaining to his overseas contacts will certainly be reviewed by the STRAP authorities.â
STRAP is another issue, and we should not be distracted by STRAP. Mandelson needed to follow the developed vetting before getting anywhere near the latest STRAP stuff.
It is important that we take these things in order. We have that email, which is about as pathetic as it can be. There might be something in the nine-page summary that some Members sitting in this Chamber have seen. It might be that that summary showing the security concerns has a page or so at the endâit is a blank pageâasking the Foreign Office for its response. UKSV is giving a recommendation saying, âMandelson should not be given the job, he is a security risk.â The process might be that the Foreign Office has to write something on that form saying, âWe have read this. We donât agree with you. We think he should be appointed, and weâre going to put in the following mitigationsâ, and then list them. It might be that the Foreign Office did not fill that in properly, and it might be that that bit of the form remains blank. I do not know whether anybody is in a position to be able to enlighten me one way or the other, or whether we will have to wait for the police to give us the document.