Debates between Sarah Champion and Gareth Johnson during the 2019-2024 Parliament

All-lane Running Motorways

Debate between Sarah Champion and Gareth Johnson
Wednesday 22nd January 2020

(4 years, 11 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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Sarah Champion Portrait Sarah Champion
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I echo those concerns, and the hon. Gentleman’s hope that the Minister will now do something. My heart bleeds for the families.

Reaching safety is particularly challenging in newer schemes, where refuges are being spaced further and further apart. The M42 active traffic management pilot placed refuges 500 to 800 metres apart, but in newer ALR schemes that has increased to roughly 2,500 metres. To be explicit, someone needs to travel 2.5 kilometres, or just over 1.5 miles—with a blow-out or an overheating engine, or after being in an accident—before being able to get out of a live traffic lane. The greater the distance between refuges, therefore, the less likely it is that a motorist will be able to reach safety. Motorists are instead left exposed, stopped in live traffic. I can only assume—I am sorry to say this—that that decision was made to save the Government money.

Gareth Johnson Portrait Gareth Johnson (Dartford) (Con)
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Sarah Champion Portrait Sarah Champion
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I will, multiply.

Gareth Johnson Portrait Gareth Johnson
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Does the hon. Lady agree that not only motorists but workers in recovery vehicles need extra protection from smart motorways? One way of achieving that might be to enable those workers to use red lights rather than the simple amber lights that they use at the moment. That would afford them greater protection from other vehicles that might otherwise not see them on the road.

Sarah Champion Portrait Sarah Champion
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I will come on to the existing lighting system, but yes, motorway rescue is walking into a death trap.