Debates between Lord Young of Cookham and Lord Blencathra during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Civil Service Impartiality

Debate between Lord Young of Cookham and Lord Blencathra
Monday 5th February 2018

(6 years, 9 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Young of Cookham Portrait Lord Young of Cookham
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The noble Lord is absolutely right. I quoted a moment ago the Civil Service Code, which includes objectivity. Objectivity is defined as,

“basing your advice and decisions on rigorous analysis of the evidence”.

It is these standards for which our Civil Service is renowned.

Lord Blencathra Portrait Lord Blencathra (Con)
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My Lords, can I ask my noble friend’s honest opinion? He will be familiar with this document: the Treasury analysis of May 2016 forecasting a complete collapse of the British economy if we were to vote to leave. I have maintained that this document is propaganda from top to bottom, and it turns out to be utterly untrue in reality. My noble friend has praised the objectivity of those who produce government statistics. If I continue to criticise the mandarins and the Ministers who approved the statistics and this document, does that make me a snake-oil salesman or a 1930s German Nazi—or maybe a bit of both?

Lord Young of Cookham Portrait Lord Young of Cookham
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I think my noble friend should distinguish between criticisms of Ministers and criticisms of civil servants. The document that he has in his hand was publicly presented by the Chancellor of the Exchequer at the time. Any criticism should be directed at the politicians who presented it. I think it was also endorsed at the time by the noble Lord, Lord Darling. They are the ones who should be criticised, rather than the civil servants.