Lord West of Spithead
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(2 weeks, 5 days ago)
Lords ChamberWe have not rejected the core conclusions of that report. The noble Earl is absolutely right that we need investment, and the Government have announced huge amounts of it. I cannot read them all out, but on pages 35 and 36 he will see sums of money, labelled against numerous types of ship, that will be invested in the shipyards. He is quite right that we need a steady drum beat of orders. As a proud Scotsman—with his Scottish noble friend, the noble Baroness, Lady Goldie, sitting behind him—he will no doubt be as pleased as I am that 13 ships are to be built on the Clyde over the next few years. He will also know that only yesterday we announced with the Netherlands eight amphibious transport ships, all to be built in the UK. It is not a bad start.
My Lords, for too long we have had feast and famine within our warship shipbuilding industry. Part of the reason for the dreadful situation we are in today is that orders took too long to make and there was no drum beat. We will very shortly have four frigates—the great Royal Navy will have four frigates. It is almost unbelievable to say it. That is because we have not had a drum beat. Even now, looking to the future, with the 26s and the 31s, the Government have to commit to saying that they will build and drum-beat thereafter.
If you want 25 hulls, we all know that with a 25-year life you need one ship being built every year. If you want 30, which the Government have said they want, you need 1.3 being built every year. That is not happening, and we will not be getting the first of the new ships for another three years. It is extremely worrying. We must commit to a steady drum beat of orders that lets industry spend money, builds up the shipyards and gets the SMEs going. Then we can get back to having a Navy that can really do what it needs to do.
I agree with the points that my noble friend makes. As I said in answer to the noble Earl, Lord Minto, that is what we are doing. We are steadily improving the drum beat that my noble friend talks about. We also need to ensure that we have the Navy that we need in the future. It will be a different type of Navy. Of course we will need warships and platforms; that is the point about the common combat vessel. Of course we will need such vessels, but they will launch from them uncrewed vessels above, on the surface of and below the water. When they are integrated on the digital platforms that we will have, they will give us huge capability to defend ourselves, our allies and our partners across the world.