Debates between Lord Garnier and Lord Judd during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Tue 15th Jan 2019
Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill
Lords Chamber

3rd reading (Hansard): House of Lords

Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill

Debate between Lord Garnier and Lord Judd
Lord Garnier Portrait Lord Garnier (Con)
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Before my noble friend sits down, I caution that sometimes lists can become exclusive and that some good things are easier to recognise than to define. He ought to stick to the way the Bill is currently drafted and allow himself the freedom to consider rather more carefully, despite the charming way in which the noble Baroness has advanced her case.

Lord Judd Portrait Lord Judd
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My Lords, the Minister has been very helpful in the comments he has made and I most genuinely thank him for that. I just wonder whether it is possible for the Government and the Minister, when this legislation is given final consideration, to say some encouraging and positive things about the recognition of the courage and value of such work, so as to in no way whatsoever inhibit organisations that are able to make a positive contribution of this kind. Having been through this kind of situation, the trustees and leaders of the agencies concerned obviously give a great deal of deliberation to what they do and what is involved. To feel they are doing it in a climate of good will and not just acceptance is very important.