Non-Consensual Sexually Explicit Images and Videos (Offences) Bill [HL]

Debate between Lord Clement-Jones and Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede
Lord Clement-Jones Portrait Lord Clement-Jones (LD)
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My Lords, the whole purpose of the discussion today has been, to use the words of the noble Baroness, Lady Foster, that there should be strict liability and not intent. Surely we are not talking about mens rea in this at all.

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede Portrait Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede (Lab)
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I absolutely heard what the noble Baroness said about strict liability offences. The Government’s position is as I just said. However, I listened very carefully to what the noble Baroness said.

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill

Debate between Lord Clement-Jones and Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede
Lord Clement-Jones Portrait Lord Clement-Jones (LD)
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My Lords, the procedure in Grand Committee is quite clear: there has to be unanimity for an amendment to proceed.

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede Portrait Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede (Lab)
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We are not against the Minister’s amendment; we just think it needs clarity. The Labour Party would not object if the Committee agreed the amendment. If appropriate, we will come back to it at a later stage.

Lord Clement-Jones Portrait Lord Clement-Jones (LD)
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The appropriate procedure would be for the Minister to withdraw it, and then move an amendment on Report. We would be very happy if the Minister came back on Report.