Debates between Ian Lavery and Lee Anderson during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Rail Strikes

Debate between Ian Lavery and Lee Anderson
Wednesday 15th June 2022

(2 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Lavery Portrait Ian Lavery (Wansbeck) (Lab)
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I first draw attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests. I received support from the RMT union at the 2019 general election. Anybody reading the right-wing press all the weekend would have thought that that was something to be ashamed of. Well, I want to tell everyone in the House clearly that I am not ashamed; I am extremely proud of it. If I asked every hon. Member sitting here where they got their support from, we might find that there were some very difficult questions to answer. I am proud that I have got support from people in the RMT—the train drivers, ordinary people, the taxpayers.

Ian Lavery Portrait Ian Lavery
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I will not give way.

The right hon. Member for Bexleyheath and Crayford (Sir David Evennett), who is no longer in his seat, suggested that the members of the RMT and the unions were against the general public. The RMT—the members of the RMT, the members of the trade union movement—are part of the general public. They are workers of this nation, and in this case, we are talking about key workers. I am proud to represent the unions. I am proud to have been a trade union member all of my life. And just for the record, I want to avoid any dispute next week—but if there are disputes next week, I will be standing shoulder to shoulder with representatives of the RMT.

Cost of Living and Food Insecurity

Debate between Ian Lavery and Lee Anderson
Tuesday 8th February 2022

(2 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Lavery Portrait Ian Lavery (Wansbeck) (Lab)
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I want to put some human context into this debate. I saw on social media this weekend a comment by a single parent. She said:

“It’s difficult to imagine without experiencing it is how tiring being skint is. How you’re so utterly consumed by financial hardship that it affects every decision you make on a daily basis. It takes up every thought and you can’t escape. No wonder there is a mental health crisis”.

Lee Anderson Portrait Lee Anderson
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ian Lavery Portrait Ian Lavery
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That comes from a single parent and it sets the tone for this debate. The country is badly fractured and, sadly, broken. Kids cannot eat and pensioners cannot eat, yet sales of luxury yachts have gone through the roof.

Lee Anderson Portrait Lee Anderson
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ian Lavery Portrait Ian Lavery
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If we have a look at the grotesque inequality in this country, and at those who have and those who have not, we see that there has been a 500% increase in the number of billionaires since covid began, a £2 trillion increase in FTSE stock market value and £3 trillion increase in housing stock—

Lee Anderson Portrait Lee Anderson
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ian Lavery Portrait Ian Lavery
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And then we look at the other end of the political spectrum, where we see 14 million people in this country, the sixth richest economy on this planet, living in poverty.

Lee Anderson Portrait Lee Anderson
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Ian Lavery Portrait Ian Lavery
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UK wages are at the lowest they have been and they are a 15-year standstill. Wages are gone and energy bills are going through the roof—I will come on to that. Poverty is a political choice. Hunger is a political choice. I am sick and tired of debates in this place where people from all parts are basically reducing hungry and cold families and individuals to mere balance sheet statistics—count them as human beings. The debate often gets dragged into whether this is absolute poverty or relative poverty.

Lee Anderson Portrait Lee Anderson
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ian Lavery Portrait Ian Lavery
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That does not matter to people who are suffering greatly in our communities. If they are sitting at the table with nothing to eat in the morning or at teatime at night, they are not aware of whether they are in abject poverty, absolute poverty, relative poverty or overall poverty. They might not even know that they are in poverty, but they know they are hungry. I think we will all probably have experienced being behind the person in the local newsagent who has the key to put £5 on their electricity bill—

Lee Anderson Portrait Lee Anderson
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?