All 2 Debates between Baroness Clark of Kilwinning and Mark Harper

Electoral Registration and Administration Bill

Debate between Baroness Clark of Kilwinning and Mark Harper
Monday 18th June 2012

(12 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Mark Harper Portrait Mr Harper
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My hon. Friend makes a good point. Let me continue with my point about fraud.

A recent Metropolitan police and national fraud initiative analysis, looking at 29,000 strands of identity data found on forged and counterfeit documents, showed that 45.6% matched electoral registration data, and a lack of any robust verification process is a tool that criminals use for creating fictitious identities to be used not in voting fraud but for financial crime, so we need to deal with that as well.

When police have electoral fraud drawn to their attention, and it is the responsibility of the police given that electoral fraud is a crime, they take such matters seriously. I recently met the Association of Chief Police Officers’ lead on the issue and have discussed it with the Electoral Commission, and, if colleagues think that there is electoral fraud and report it to the police, the police will certainly take it seriously, but colleagues will be expected to stand up the accusations they make and be prepared to swear statements and to enable the police to take action. There is both a perception of a problem and a real problem with, in particular, financial fraud.

In amendments 20, 18 and 19, the hon. Member for Caerphilly sets out his concerns about our proposals. Amendment 20, which would extend the transition to individual registration by extending the carry-forward, focuses only on completeness, not on accuracy, and one problem with his suggestion is that, if we did what he wanted, by the time of the publication of the registers after the 2015 canvass, it might have been almost two years since EROs had actually heard from people—[Interruption.]

Baroness Clark of Kilwinning Portrait The Temporary Chair (Katy Clark)
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Order. Will Members refrain from chatting and enable the Minister to be heard?

Mark Harper Portrait Mr Harper
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Thank you, Ms Clark.

The danger for the hon. Member for Caerphilly is that, in his proposals, he urges us to deal with completeness, but, if we accept his argument that they would increase completeness, and I am not sure that they would, we find that they may do so at the expense of accuracy. They would leave on the register people who were not likely to be at the address in question any more, because they would not have responded to an electoral registration officer for some time.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Baroness Clark of Kilwinning and Mark Harper
Tuesday 20th December 2011

(12 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness Clark of Kilwinning Portrait Katy Clark (North Ayrshire and Arran) (Lab)
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8. What assessment he has made of the potential effects of the introduction of individual electoral registration on the 2015 boundary review.

Mark Harper Portrait The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office (Mr Mark Harper)
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I do not expect our proposals for individual registration to have any effects. As I have said from the Dispatch Box on many occasions, we are as focused as ever on accuracy and completeness, and I therefore do not expect the new arrangement to cause any problems for the boundary review. We are working incredibly hard to ensure that the 2015 register will be in good shape.

Baroness Clark of Kilwinning Portrait Katy Clark
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Surely the Minister accepts that the Electoral Commission’s finding that about 6 million people are missing from the register must cast doubt on the data that are being used for the boundary review.

Mark Harper Portrait Mr Harper
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That study was, of course, paid for by the Government, because we wanted to find out what state the electoral register was in before introducing individual electoral registration. It suggests that those who complacently thought that the register was already in good shape may need to think about that a little more, and also that our proposals, which include data matching and improving registration, are urgently required and will make the register better.