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Wes Streeting
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(1 week, 2 days ago)
Commons ChamberI would point the hon. Lady to how the NHS was being run in Wales—it certainly was not the great success that she is trying to allude to.
In politics there are difficult jobs and there are impossible jobs, and then there is inheriting a Department after one’s predecessor spent two years promising the electorate that this is the one Bill to rule all Bills and fix virtually everything short of death itself. This was not just a hospital pass, but a hospital pass delivered by catapult.
One can almost hear the poor Secretary of State gulping. “Thank you, Prime Minister,” he replies faintly, in the tone of a man accepting command of the Titanic after it has already struck the iceberg. Off he trudges to the Department of Health and Social Care, where the automatic doors open and his nostrils are struck immediately by a strange, lingering aroma. It is not the scent of modernisation or the smell of efficiency, and it is certainly not the fragrance of falling waiting lists. No—it is the unmistakeable odour of political panic, mixed delicately with the perspiration of failed leadership manoeuvres and lightly seasoned with the ashes of abandoned promises. There waiting for him, naturally, is Sir Humphrey—because however much Governments modernise, digitise, integrate, recalibrate or synergise, Whitehall always produces a Sir Humphrey.
I can imagine the conversation. The new Secretary of State says brightly, “Good news, Sir Humphrey. I understand that my predecessor has already solved everything through the Health Bill.” At this point, an eerie silence descends. Civil servants suddenly become more fascinated by ceiling tiles, and one junior official attempts to escape through a stationery cupboard. Sir Humphrey clears his throat in the way only permanent secretaries can; a sound rather like an early—
Give me time, give me time.
“Well, indeed, Minister,” says Sir Humphrey.
“I understand,” says the Secretary of State, “that abolishing NHS England will instantly reduce bureaucracy, improve accountability and unleash vast efficiencies.”
“Well, Minister, it will certainly create a large number of meetings.”
“And the single patient record will revolutionise healthcare, won’t it?”
“Yes, Minister—assuming the NHS IT systems eventually stop communicating with each other via what appears to be medieval semaphore.”
“But we have delivered 5 million more appointments.”
“Certainly, Minister—only 1.5 million appointments behind the last Conservative Government.”
“And integrated care boards now answer directly to Ministers.”
“Yes, Minister.”
“So accountability is now indisputable.”
“Well, Minister, blame certainly is.”
And so the conversation goes on. The Secretary of State asks, “And what about the workforce plan?”
“Still developing, Minister.”
“And social care?”
“Still delayed, Minister.”
“And mental health implementation?”
“Still proceeding at approximately the speed of continental drift.”
“And pharmacies?”
“Still under pressure.”
“And GP contracts?”
“Still alarming GPs.”
“And productivity?”, the Secretary of State asks desperately.
“At present, Minister, the NHS measures productivity in the same way that astronomers in ancient Greece measured distant planets: with great optimism and very limited visibility.”
At this point, the Health Secretary clearly begins searching the office for the exit map. “But Sir Humphrey,” he says, “surely my predecessor left me with a fully deliverable programme.”
After a long pause, Sir Humphrey replies, “Well, your predecessor was primarily focused on a different pathway.”
“A different pathway?”
“Yes—the pathway to No. 10.”
And now I will give way to the right hon. Member! [Laughter.]
I am sure that sounded really good in the mirror when the right hon. Gentleman practised this morning, but can I bring him back to the real world, where the permanent secretary is, in fact, a woman and an outstanding leader at that? In the real world, I am able to say something that not one of my Conservative predecessors was able to say when they left office, which is that I left the NHS in a better state than I found it. Why is he so determined to defend the bloated bureaucracy that his party created over 14 failed years?
Well, let me say directly to the right hon. Gentleman that there have been a lot of announcements from the Government. We know all about the fall in waiting list figures, and not just from comments from us in this Chamber challenging what is really happening—we are receiving email after email from people who have been taken off waiting lists despite still needing treatment. Patients are being taken off waiting lists, sometimes without their knowledge. This has not been about more appointments for patients—it is about massaging the figures, and he knows it.
There is a lot in this Bill that we will support, and there are many areas where we would like the Government to perhaps go further, but there is also a rhetoric that needs to be addressed, because there are unresolved problems still. Social care is unresolved. Workforce pressures are unresolved. Mental health backlogs are unresolved. Productivity is unresolved. Pharmacy pressures are unresolved. GP satisfaction is unresolved. The Secretary of State is inheriting not just a Department but an expectations crisis, because the greatest danger in politics is not under-promising; it is convincing the public that complexity itself can be announced away.
The Bill abolishes NHS England and centralises significant powers to be governed by the Secretary of State. It takes control out of patients’ hands.
That was a characteristically thoughtful speech by the hon. Member for Runnymede and Weybridge (Dr Spencer). It is also a particular pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow South West (Dr Ahmed), who was an outstanding Minister in the Department of Health and Social Care and has demonstrated again today why his expertise and integrity are highly valued on the Government side of the House.
I strongly supported the speech made by the Secretary of State. He has hit the ground running, and he knows that he has my full-throated and wholehearted support. He does not need a predecessor being a back-seat driver—something that I am sure the Prime Minister feels about one or two of his predecessors after recent days. I also thank the Minister of State for Health, my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol South (Karin Smyth), for her leadership on the Bill, and the brilliant team of officials, who have worked exceptionally hard to prepare the Bill for its introduction.
It will come as no surprise to anyone that I strongly support the Bill. The latest NHS waiting list figures show the biggest cut to NHS waiting lists for 17 years, and as we heard from the Tories today, they cannot stand it. They cannot stand that within less than two years we have done something that they failed to achieve in 14: lowered waiting lists. Waiting lists are shorter than when we came in—lots done, and lots more to do, but the numbers are there. Despite record levels of demand and strike action by the British Medical Association, we delivered record levels of activity and waiting lists are falling. That is the difference that a Labour Government make.
To understand how and why this happened is to understand why the Bill matters. Those who claim that recent improvements in NHS performance are simply the result of more money are making exactly the same mistake that held the NHS back for years under the Conservatives. Investment matters—of course it does—but, as the Secretary of State outlined, we are combining investment with reform. We are embracing technology, cutting bureaucracy, improving productivity and changing how care is delivered—from cutting £1 billion from spend on agency staff to funding GPs to treat more patients in the community, equipping NHS staff with the latest AI tools, and sending crack teams of top clinicians to bust the backlogs in hospitals with the most patients off work sick. Every single change has been opposed by vested interests, but that is why we are seeing more patients treated and better value for taxpayers. That is the difference between managing decline and delivering change.
For all our progress, we know that there is so much more to do. Too many people are still waiting too long. Too many staff are working against systems that make their jobs harder, not easier. Too many patients have to tell their story over and over again. Too much money is trapped in bureaucracy when it should be reaching the frontline. Too often, accountability is blurred between two different headquarters or two different boards, bodies and acronyms that the public do not know and cannot hold to account. This Bill is the NHS modernisation Bill, and it addresses every single one of those challenges, giving expression to the principle that the NHS should be run for the patient, not the other way around.
The Leader of the Opposition recently claimed that we have not kept our promise to abolish NHS England. In fact, we have already started: 7,000 posts removed from ICBs, and 4,500 more posts going from NHS England and the Department of Health and Social Care. I know that those changes are not easy for the people affected, and I never treated them lightly, but abolishing NHS England is about cutting duplication, reducing bureaucracy and putting responsibility for the NHS where it belongs: with elected Ministers who are accountable to the public.
Every pound wasted on administration is a pound that could be spent on patient care. That is why we are stripping out unnecessary layers and directing more resources to the frontline. Hearing the opposition from Conservative Front Benchers, it is no wonder that they presided over such a bloated bureaucracy. This Bill will save money, but they never once asked how much it would cost to pile on layer after layer of bureaucracy, saddling the NHS with top-heavy management, which frustrated patients and really frustrated staff.
Some will say that there is a contradiction: that centralising accountability and giving patients more control over their own data pull in opposite directions. But that is precisely the point. For too long, power in the NHS has sat in a no man’s land—an accountability sink, too distant from patients and citizens to be meaningful and just far enough away from Ministers that there is plausible deniability when things go wrong. The Bill takes back power in order to give it away: accountability for Ministers where it belongs, and power for the patient where it belongs, too.
The Government must face down powerful producer interests on patient data. Our health data is precious. Two things matter above all else: that our data is held securely and that it is used ethically. However, the single patient record is one of the most important reforms of the NHS for decades. It is frankly unsafe, as well as absurd, that patients are still being asked to repeat their medical history every time they access a different service. We also have to take on the producer interest of those who think patient data belongs to them rather than to patients. Our health, our data, our NHS—patients should control who can access their data, and they should control their own data.
By all means let us scrutinise the Bill and suggest improvements, but do not slow it down. The NHS does not have time to waste. The NHS is on the road to recovery, and this Bill puts the foot down on the accelerator.
I call the Chair of the Health and Social Care Committee, after whose speech there will be a four-minute time limit.