Debates between Wera Hobhouse and Patrick Grady during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Leaving the European Union

Debate between Wera Hobhouse and Patrick Grady
Monday 4th February 2019

(5 years, 9 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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Patrick Grady Portrait Patrick Grady
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The United Kingdom has consistently negotiated derogations, alternative arrangements, opt-outs and so on throughout its history. The point of membership of the European Union is that, within the Union, a country can help to shape its direction and its future. Brexit will take us out completely.

Wera Hobhouse Portrait Wera Hobhouse
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Does the hon. Gentleman agree that, “We want to become a sovereign country again,” is a completely misleading phrase? All of us in the European Union are sovereign members; we are sharing and pooling sovereignty. That is the whole point about the European Union.

Patrick Grady Portrait Patrick Grady
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I was going to make that exact point in my peroration. Members can probably guess what that will be.

The problem is that this deal is not good enough. It has already been rejected by Parliament, and the Prime Minister has had to accept that it needs to be renegotiated so that we have these magical alternative arrangements. That in itself demonstrates that if the House—if parliamentarians, whether we are delegates or representatives—cannot agree on the shape and form of Brexit, then it has to be put back to the people, either in a people’s vote or in a general election. I assure the House that the Scottish National Party fears neither of those.