All 6 Debates between Sarah Pochin and David Lammy

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Sarah Pochin and David Lammy
Tuesday 19th May 2026

(3 weeks, 3 days ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sarah Pochin Portrait Sarah Pochin (Runcorn and Helsby) (Reform)
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20. What assessment he has made of the potential impact of restricting the right to trial by jury in some circumstances on levels of public confidence in the criminal justice system.

David Lammy Portrait The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Mr David Lammy)
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We inherited a justice system in crisis, with a backlog of over 80,000 cases—double what it was in the pre-covid era—and with victims, witnesses and defendants waiting years for justice. That is what truly undermines confidence in our justice system. Justice delayed is justice denied. Only by pulling every lever—investment, efficiency and reform—can we turn the tide.

David Lammy Portrait Mr Lammy
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If the hon. Gentleman were serious, he would get on top of the detail. We are not scrapping juries; juries remain a cornerstone of our system. Just as Margaret Thatcher made changes to the jury system, and just as the Blair Government made changes to the jury system, we are making changes to bring down the backlog.

Sarah Pochin Portrait Sarah Pochin
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On Saturday, the Secretary of State promised extra court time for anyone arrested at the “Unite the Kingdom” march, yet there are grooming gang survivors who have waited more than 20 years for their cases to come to court. How is it that he is able to find court time to arrest protesters, yet some victims of vile sexual abuse are waiting decades to have their cases heard in court?

Youth Justice

Debate between Sarah Pochin and David Lammy
Monday 18th May 2026

(3 weeks, 4 days ago)

Commons Chamber
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David Lammy Portrait Mr Lammy
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My hon. Friend is right, and he knows from his long experience that the role local government plays, alongside mental health services and education, is vital, and we must do much better to join this up. Whenever something goes badly wrong, it is usually because services have not been sufficiently joined up. That is why the new intensive supervision course in this area can make a real difference for young people.

Sarah Pochin Portrait Sarah Pochin (Runcorn and Helsby) (Reform)
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In my 20 years’ experience in the courts, I have watched young people’s attitude change: there is no respect for the courts when they walk into the courtroom, and no fear of the police. Prison—or young offenders institution—sentences are no longer a deterrent, because they are simply not given out. We rarely see parents in court in support, for lots of different reasons: these children are neglected because their parents are battling alcohol or drugs, have financial issues or are out of work; or they are in a care system that is letting them down. I have visited care homes that I know let under-age youngsters go out at night and prostitute themselves, because nobody can keep an eye on them or control them. The care system fails those kids too. In places such as my constituency, I witness kids going out in gangs, subject to organised crime gangs. They need opportunities, they need apprenticeships—

Criminal Court Reform

Debate between Sarah Pochin and David Lammy
Tuesday 2nd December 2025

(6 months, 1 week ago)

Commons Chamber
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David Lammy Portrait Mr Lammy
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Yes, I can. For every victim of a crime, the crime is serious, but the decisions that I am announcing at the Dispatch Box are about the length of sentences—about asking our magistrates to go up from one year to 18 months, and asking the new division in the Crown courts to deal with sentences of 18 months to three years.

Sarah Pochin Portrait Sarah Pochin (Runcorn and Helsby) (Reform)
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Does the Secretary of State not agree that his policy of abolishing trial by jury in all but the most serious cases undermines the whole foundation of law and order in this country, and risks the further politicisation of our judicial system, with judges acting alone as the state and no longer being held to account by the people in the form of a jury?

Prisoner Releases in Error

Debate between Sarah Pochin and David Lammy
Tuesday 11th November 2025

(7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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David Lammy Portrait Mr Lammy
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The hon. Lady will know that absconding is a serious criminal offence, and that any defendant who commits this crime could face longer behind bars. This is of course a different issue to releases in error. Category D prisons have always existed, and absconds by prisoners are assessed, but I assure her that there is a downward trend in those who are absconding—57 in the year to March 2025.

Sarah Pochin Portrait Sarah Pochin (Runcorn and Helsby) (Reform)
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Is the Justice Secretary aware of any crimes committed by wrongly released prisoners while at large?

David Lammy Portrait Mr Lammy
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As I have just said, William Fernandez went on to commit an horrific crime but the last Government never came to the Dispatch Box about that. By definition, if we got to the situation that we did in 2024, when 17 releases in error were happening, of course it is possible that people can go on to commit crimes. That is why I am hugely grateful—I know it involves police resource—for the efforts of our police to re-arrest these individuals. Some of them, as we saw last week, hand themselves back in when they realise that their release was in error. Our job is to minimise risk, but in a paper-based system we can never eradicate risk in time.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Sarah Pochin and David Lammy
Tuesday 16th September 2025

(8 months, 3 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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David Lammy Portrait Mr Lammy
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The SNP is running down Scotland and wasting taxpayers’ money on the new Barlinnie prison—more than double the original estimated cost. We are doing much better on this side of the border, and we are working with colleagues to see what we can do about that situation.

Sarah Pochin Portrait Sarah Pochin (Runcorn and Helsby) (Reform)
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Does the new Secretary of State for Justice recognise sharia law and sharia courts in the United Kingdom—yes or no?

Middle East

Debate between Sarah Pochin and David Lammy
Monday 23rd June 2025

(11 months, 2 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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David Lammy Portrait Mr Lammy
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I think that the people of Britain are entitled to know that we were not involved in this action, and that we work for diplomacy and de-escalation. That is why I was sitting in the White House last week, it is why I was in Geneva on Friday, and it is why I was at a Cobra meeting and making a round of calls to allies and partners to de-escalate at this time yesterday.

Sarah Pochin Portrait Sarah Pochin (Runcorn and Helsby) (Reform)
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Can the Foreign Secretary explain to the House whether the United States felt unable to use the Diego Garcia base and had to refuel three times, in a highly dangerous operation, because of the deal that the Government did with the Mauritians, who would then tell the Chinese, who would then tell the Iranians?

David Lammy Portrait Mr Lammy
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The hon. Lady has to get off social media, and she has to get some help. She is swallowing conspiracy theories that should not be repeated in this House.