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Debate between Saqib Bhatti and Louise Jones
Wednesday 19th March 2025

(2 weeks, 2 days ago)

Commons Chamber
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Louise Jones Portrait Louise Jones
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My hon. Friend is exactly right. The triple lock is a serious commitment that we are utterly committed to, and it will make a difference to every single pensioner in this country—far more than trying to pretend that we do not face the systemic problems that this country faces.

Saqib Bhatti Portrait Saqib Bhatti
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Will the hon. Member give way?

Louise Jones Portrait Louise Jones
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I was going to go back to GB Energy, but why not?

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Saqib Bhatti Portrait Saqib Bhatti
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The hon. Member is being very generous with interventions. She talked about fairness in pay. Those pensioners also worked all through their lives and also deserve fairness. What is fair about the hundreds of millions being given to train drivers as opposed to what has been taken away from pensioners? What is fair about the £18 billion, or whatever the figure is, being spent on the Chagos islands, compared with what pensioners deserve?

Louise Jones Portrait Louise Jones
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What is fair is a 4.1% rise in the state pension and a 5.5% to 6% rise for our soldiers, teachers and nurses, and I will say that as many times as I need to say it.

Many people in this country have been grappling with skyrocketing energy bills, which have caused real poverty. Those bills have skyrocketed largely because we are at the mercy of international markets, so it is vital that we take back sovereign control of our energy and energy prices, and GB Energy is a vital part of that.