(6Â years, 6Â months ago)
Commons ChamberAs usual, my right hon. Friend trumps my argument in advance, but I will come back to that in a second.
What that demonstratesâand what my right hon. Friendâs point demonstratesâis a failure of the Treasury and HMRC to write clear and comprehensible legislation. If the judges cannot understand it, what chance is there for ordinary laymenâpeople who cannot afford to employ an accountant? We are not talking about city slickers or international bankers; we are talking about locum nurses, social workers, careworkers and hospital cleaners.
The right hon. Gentlemanâs point that these are not city slickers and tax-avoiding, money-grabbing sorts reminds me of my constituent, Caroline Cheasty. She was a social worker in the public sector, with 24 yearsâ experience in local authorities. She had a career break, and when she wanted to go back as a locum, she was advised to either form a plc or go with an umbrella companyâthat is what she did. She came to my surgery in tears. Does he agree that the Government should go after the promoters of these schemes, not the little people?
I do. The hon. Lady tempts me into a political point, because the Blair Government were the most active promoter of these schemes, but she is right in general.
When something is as unclear as this tax law obviously was, we do not take the date of resolution from the first date that HMRC winsâwe do not keep going until we get the answer that the Government want. We take it from the day it is finally resolved in the Supreme Court. The case was not finally and definitively settled by the Supreme Court until 2017, when it found in HMRCâs favour on the Rangers, Dextra and Sempra cases. The Governmentâthis relates to the point made by my right hon. Friend the Member for New Forest Westâthen passed further legislation to clarify the law. Even after the court case, they passed legislation to clarify the law. If it was so clear, why did we need a new law in 2017? That is the fundamental point.
My hon. Friend is, of course, a skilled businessman; he knows what he is doing, and he is across this sort of thingâit is his job to be across itâbut I am not so sure we could say that about a locum nurse or a social worker. This issue was actually at the centre of Sir Amyas Morseâs arguments. He took the view that the attitude from 2017 should apply back to 2010, even though the law was not clear. He took the view that the principle of a taxpayerâs responsibility for their own tax affairs must be upheld. That is the point my hon. Friend is making, and it is rightâbut only when the law is clear. That means that the Government have a responsibility to make the law clear and not to punish ordinary, hard-working taxpayers when Ministers fail to live up to that responsibility.
HMRC itself seems to disagree on the importance of the taxpayerâs responsibility. Why do I say that? Because until 2014, it did not approach the individual taxpayers; it approached the advisers. It approached the companies that insistedâthey did not ask, but they insistedâthat these locums and social workers took up this option. HMRC went to the advisers until 2014âuntil the issue suddenly started to become quite controversial.
Last year, the Prime Minister himself commented on this issue. He said:
âThe real culprits in this matter, if I may say so, are not so much the individuals themselves who have decided to use the loan charge as a way of minimising their tax exposure. Itâs the people who advised them that it was a sensible thing to do. In my view, we should find a way of going after them.â
That is the Prime Ministerâs view, and I happen to agree, unusually.
If the hon. Lady will forgive me, I am trying to constrain my speech to 15 minutes, and it is beginning to be a struggle with so many interventions.
In summary, these people are now suffering because of a history of poorly drafted regulation and legislation and poor management by HMRC, targeted on the wrong people.
On many occasions, the Minister and his predecessor have told me and the House that the loan charge is not retrospective. In his report, Sir Amyas Morse states:
âThe Loan Charge can look back 20 yearsâŚThis design has been described by HMT as âretroactiveâ.â
The report describes the loan charge throughout as backward looking. HMRC denies that it is retrospective; it says it is retroactive. If I may say so, that is a distinction without a difference. When I looked up âretrospectiveâ in a thesaurus, guess what it said? It defined the word as âretroactive or backward lookingâ.