Working People’s Finances: Government Policy Debate

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Department: HM Treasury

Working People’s Finances: Government Policy

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Excerpts
Tuesday 21st September 2021

(3 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I advise the House that Mr Speaker has selected the amendment in the name of the Prime Minister.

Before we start the debate, let me tell Members that if they wish to participate in the debate, it is essential that they are here at the beginning. If they are not, they will not be called. It is also essential that hon. and right hon. Members stay to the end of the debate to hear the wind-ups. If there are those who have not put into speak but wish to do so, please can they bob so that they catch my eye?

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Caroline Johnson Portrait Dr Caroline Johnson (Sleaford and North Hykeham) (Con)
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I thank the hon. Lady for giving way. You are making the case for why you do not agree with the Government’s position, but I have been listening very carefully to hear what your position is. You have criticised the removal of the uplift in universal, but no Labour politician on the news or interviewed by the press has committed to keep it if you were to be elected.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Order. The hon. Lady really must stop using the word “you”.

Caroline Johnson Portrait Dr Johnson
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I did not mean to, of course, Madam Deputy Speaker. The point I am trying to make is that there is no plan from the Opposition. They are not giving any plan on what they would do instead; they simply criticise. They simply say we must spend more and tax less, but how does the hon. Lady propose to do such a thing?

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Kim Johnson Portrait Kim Johnson (Liverpool, Riverside) (Lab)
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In your constituency of Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland—

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Order. Can I just stop the hon. Lady? She must not use the word “your”, but say “in the Minister’s constituency”.

Kim Johnson Portrait Kim Johnson
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In the Minister’s constituency of Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland, the child poverty rate is 24.7%, smashing the national average of 19.1%, and up nearly 10% over the past six years. Can the Minister tell us exactly how he intends to justify his own Government’s decisions to hit the pockets of the most vulnerable families and disadvantaged people he represents?