Courts and Tribunals (Judiciary and Functions of Staff) Bill [Lords] Debate

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Courts and Tribunals (Judiciary and Functions of Staff) Bill [Lords]

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Excerpts
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Division 280

Ayes: 243


Labour: 228
Liberal Democrat: 7
Plaid Cymru: 4
Independent: 3
Green Party: 1

Noes: 312


Conservative: 303
Democratic Unionist Party: 9

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Consideration completed. I will now suspend the House for no more than 5 minutes in order to make a decision about certification. The Division bells will be rung two minutes before the House resumes. Following my certification, the Government will table the appropriate consent motion, copies of which will be made available in the Vote Office and will be distributed by Doorkeepers.

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On resuming—
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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I can now inform the House that I have completed certification of the Bill, as required by the Standing Order. I have confirmed the view expressed in Mr Speaker’s provisional certificate issued earlier today. Copies of my final certificate will be made available in the Vote Office and on the parliamentary website.

Under Standing Order No. 83M, a consent motion is therefore required for the Bill to proceed. Copies of the motion are available in the Vote Office and on the parliamentary website, and have been made available to Members in the Chamber. Does the Minister intend to move the consent motion?

Lucy Frazer Portrait Lucy Frazer
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indicated assent.

The House forthwith resolved itself into the Legislative Grand Committee (England and Wales) (Standing Order No. 83M).

[Dame Rosie Winterton in the Chair]

David Linden Portrait David Linden (Glasgow East) (SNP)
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I beg to move, That the Committee sit in private.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait The Second Deputy Chairman of Ways and Means (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I am afraid I cannot accept that motion because the hon. Gentleman is not a member of the Committee.

David Linden Portrait David Linden
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On a point of order, Dame Rosie. I am grateful for your indulgence. Can you clarify that the reason why I cannot move that motion is that I represent a constituency in Scotland, and am rendered a second-class Member of the House by the legislative apartheid that is English votes for English laws?

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait The Second Deputy Chairman
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The point is that the Legislative Grand Committee represents Members of Parliament from England and Wales. In no way does that imply that the hon. Gentleman is second-class.

I remind hon. Members that if there is a Division, only Members representing constituencies in England and Wales may vote.

Resolved,

That the Committee consents to Clause 2 of the Courts and Tribunals (Judiciary and Functions of Staff) Bill [Lords] as amended in the public bill committee.—(Lucy Frazer.)

The occupant of the Chair left the Chair to report the decision of the Committee (Standing Order No. 83M(6)).

The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair; decision reported.

David Linden Portrait David Linden
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Before we return from the Legislative Grand Committee, my understanding is that, as a Member representing a Scottish constituency, while I may not be able to move a motion, I can contribute verbally. Is that correct?

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman has rather missed his chance.

David Linden Portrait David Linden
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I stood to catch your eye.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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No, I am afraid you did not. I am very sorry.

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