Employment and Trade Union Rights (Dismissal and Re-engagement) Bill Debate

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Department: Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy

Employment and Trade Union Rights (Dismissal and Re-engagement) Bill

Peter Dowd Excerpts
Friday 22nd October 2021

(2 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Paul Scully Portrait Paul Scully
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Thank you for that clarification, Madam Deputy Speaker. Indeed, I think Members from both sides of the House are taking advantage of the Tea Room, because both sides are lighter in numbers at the moment, but I always bow to your perspicacity. I would have thought that, in the last 20 minutes or so of the debate, Members pushing the Bill would want to hear the Government’s response to the merits or otherwise of the Bill, and what we are trying to do about the issue.

Peter Dowd Portrait Peter Dowd (Bootle) (Lab)
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The House of Commons Library has produced an excellent report on this subject, which says:

“Professor Alan Bogg, a Professor of Law at the University of Bristol, argued that under the current law the balance of power lies too much with the employer”.

Does the Minister agree?

Paul Scully Portrait Paul Scully
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I think it depends on which employer. We are trying to make sure that we can root out bad employers who fail to understand that investing in their workforce and respecting their workforce is good for business as well as good for the workers. As Business Minister, I speak to businesses every day and I know that the vast majority of employers want to do the right thing. When it comes to fire and rehire, I have always been very clear that we expect all employers to treat employees fairly and to consider dismissal only as a last resort when all other options have been exhausted. It is completely unacceptable to use threats of fire and rehire as a negotiating tactic.