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Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting) Debate
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Peter Jolly: There is a junior.
Would they continue with the circus or would they close it down?
Peter Jolly: They might continue with the domestic animals, but they would not part with the exotics. They would move on to other work with the exotics.
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Peter Jolly: A circus.
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Peter Jolly: Yes—dogs, fan-tailed pigeons.
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Peter Jolly: People call them doves, but they are actually fan-tailed pigeons. People always call them doves for some unknown reason. We have dogs, goats, llamas, ponies, donkeys.
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Carol MacManus: We have eight horses, five ponies, a mule, a donkey, five llamas, two camels, one zebra, 38 pigeons, six doves, two reindeer, 10 dogs, six ducks, four chickens, two cats.
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Carol MacManus: Yes.
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Peter Jolly: No.
It would be occasional use, presumably.
Carol MacManus: If we got work every week, would there be a difference? If we were working through winter-time with our reindeer jobs, we could be out every single day.
Yes, because of Santa Claus.
Carol MacManus: And we could be taking them up and down the country, all over the place—much further than we ever travel.
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Carol MacManus: But it is fine for reindeer and racing camels to be going up and down the motorway to different places and strange county shows, with maybe a drag-racing car going off next to you. I have had the circus in a county show area, when we were at Bakewell, and it is not nice.
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Carol MacManus: I think they quite like it, actually. Our zebra doesn’t like it if he does not perform; if, for any reason, he does not perform, he gets stressed. He knows when the music is on. He stands waiting at his door for the young lad to take him across to the ring to work with me—there is only one handler who handles him. He likes performing. When I had my old zebras, they used to free-range around the site. They would always be in the big top, where the shade was, or wandering round the site.
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Peter Jolly: I was talking about fumes.