Crime and Policing Bill (Third sitting)

Debate between Matt Bishop and Joe Robertson
Joe Robertson Portrait Joe Robertson
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My hon. Friend makes a good point. To respond to the hon. Member for Hemel Hempstead, we can debate policing all he likes—indeed, the previous Government increased police numbers—but the point I was making was about the courts, because we are talking about increasing the burden on Crown courts. I am not making a point against him or the hon. Member for Southend West and Leigh, but I am sure they would both agree that the Government have to address the pressure on the court system. I support this provision, but although Bills such as this are well intended, they will add pressure to the prison population and the court systems if the Government do not make further provision.

Matt Bishop Portrait Matt Bishop
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Perhaps the hon. Member can offer some thoughts as to why we might have huge backlogs in the court system.

Joe Robertson Portrait Joe Robertson
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I am slightly surprised that such an uncontroversial point is being met with such incredulity and that I am being asked to provide the hon. Member’s Government with solutions. He has to get used to the fact that his Government are in power now. They will have to find their own solutions.

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Joe Robertson Portrait Joe Robertson
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Thank you for that advice, Mr Pritchard. I am too generous in giving way, but the shadow Minister put it much better than I could myself.

Matt Bishop Portrait Matt Bishop
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Joe Robertson Portrait Joe Robertson
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I am willing to give way again, in the spirit of generosity.

Matt Bishop Portrait Matt Bishop
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I thank the hon. Member for giving way. To clarify, I did not ask for solutions; our Government have the solutions.

Joe Robertson Portrait Joe Robertson
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I think we will have to leave the debate about which Government have the solutions to another day, but I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention.

I repeat my point, which I do not think is controversial and would hope is accepted: the Labour party will have to pay extra attention to court backlogs when provisions such as this, which I support, are introduced.