Lord Liddle
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Lords ChamberMy Lords, I echo the tribute from the noble Lord, Lord Bilimoria, to the noble Lord, Lord St John of Bletso, and pay tribute to his wonderful public service to this House over many years.
This year, I had the great privilege of chairing a Select Committee for the first time, the Finance Bill Sub-Committee, which examined the measures in this finance Bill relating to inheritance tax on pensions and agricultural and business property reliefs. We worked quite hard. We heard evidence from 33 witnesses and accepted nearly 200 written submissions. I thank the fellow members of that committee, one of whom is sitting on the Front Bench opposite, the noble Lord, Lord Altrincham, but I particularly thank the noble Lord, Lord Leigh of Hurley, who is not in his place but who brought up lots of questions that the rest of us might not have thought of.
While we were pleased to see that the Government have made changes to their initial proposals on inheritance tax, our report raised significant concerns about how these measures would work in practice for personal representatives, businesses and farms. A particular concern is that about personal representatives as a result of unused pension funds being brought for the first time into the scope of inheritance tax. The Government told us that this would be just an extension of what personal representatives have to do when people die. However, we heard that the reality will be very different.
Pensions simply do not fit well in the framework of inheritance tax. There are contradictory timelines, imperfect information and conflicting responsibilities; all these put personal representatives in a very difficult position. Even the most diligent of them risk being charged high-interest late payments by HMRC for not getting the stuff done on time. Worse, I think that many people are unaware that these changes are coming; they are going to hit them hard at a time for many of great personal grief.
For agricultural and business property reliefs, we raised concerns that family businesses and farms will face significant administrative burdens, especially when valuing their estates. Many of these businesses, as our witnesses explained to us, tend to be asset rich and cash poor, so there is a real problem about where the money is going to come from. It was disappointing and concerning that the Government did not appear to have properly considered the liquidity challenges which estates will face as a result of these changes, and the impact they will have on the viability of businesses and farms. As someone who comes from Cumberland, I am very concerned about the impact on farming but also on family businesses, which are one of the really strong points in our community.
We made a number of recommendations in our report about how the Bill should be amended, in particular to extend the inheritance tax deadline. The report also has important recommendations that the Government should take forward once this Bill has passed. They must act quickly to raise awareness of the impact of the pensions reforms for personal representatives and prioritise arranging guidance and practical support. More broadly, we think that the Government should review their approach to tax policy-making. We saw the repeated redesign of these policies, with three or four changes before we got to the present, and the serious impact this uncertainty has for those affected. I look forward to the Minister’s response to our carefully considered report.
Personally, I want to make it clear that I think that wealth should be taxed more strongly than it has been. We have seen in the last 15 years great growth in wealth, at a time when most people’s wages have been stagnant. The question is how you do it properly. The best way for the Government, and they have started down this road, is to think about how we tax property more efficiently than we have in the past. I welcome the measures on the taxing of wealthy property, but if those were extended, it would give us the opportunity to get rid of or mitigate the very high levels of stamp duty, which are economically efficient in deterring people from moving house.
We have also—I am speaking from this side of the House as someone on the left of politics—got to be careful that, in taxing wealth, we do not discourage enterprise. This is very important if we are going to get the economic growth we need. We must have a society where entrepreneurs can make themselves wealthy. A lot of people always say, “Oh, the pity is that we do not have the Mittelstand as they do in Germany”. It is a great pity that we do not have a range of companies that are family owned, where people are the committed owners of those companies. But the truth is also that in Germany many of the families that own Mittelstand companies are extremely wealthy. Therefore, a balance has to be struck between taxing wealth and promoting enterprise, and we should always remember that.