Debates between Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton and Jeff Smith during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton and Jeff Smith
Monday 20th May 2019

(5 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
Read Full debate Read Hansard Text Read Debate Ministerial Extracts
Jeff Smith Portrait Jeff Smith (Manchester, Withington) (Lab)
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

T7. The Minister talked earlier about the rise in the total number of trained and untrained Army personnel. What proportion are trained and what proportion untrained?

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton Portrait Mark Lancaster
- Hansard - -

Off the top of my head, I would say that about 75,000 will be trained and 7,000 untrained. However, it is important to understand that people begin by being trained to be infantry soldiers and then go beyond that. If, for example, they are joining a technical corps such as the Royal Engineers or the Royal Corps of Signals, the point at which they become fully trained can be even further down the line.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton and Jeff Smith
Monday 22nd October 2018

(5 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
Read Full debate Read Hansard Text Read Debate Ministerial Extracts
Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton Portrait Mark Lancaster
- Hansard - -

It will come as no surprise to the hon. Gentleman that I do not have that figure at my fingertips, but I will write to him.

Jeff Smith Portrait Jeff Smith (Manchester, Withington) (Lab)
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

4. What recent assessment he has made of trends in the number of armed forces personnel.

Alex Norris Portrait Alex Norris (Nottingham North) (Lab/Co-op)
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

7. What recent assessment he has made of trends in the number of armed forces personnel.

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton Portrait The Minister for the Armed Forces (Mark Lancaster)
- Hansard - -

We remain committed to maintaining the overall size of the armed forces. We have a range of measures under way to improve recruitment and retention, and these are kept under constant review. Importantly, the services continue to meet all their current commitments, keeping the country and its interests safe.

Jeff Smith Portrait Jeff Smith
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

The Armed Forces Pay Review Body reports that the outflow rates—personnel leaving the armed forces—are at “historically high levels” under this Government. Why does the Minister think that is?

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton Portrait Mark Lancaster
- Hansard - -

Retaining our service personnel is always a challenge, and that is precisely why we are focusing hard on the offer—the opportunity to train and to serve overseas. Only this month, some 5,500 personnel are serving on Saif Sareea 3 in Oman; equally, we have servicemen serving in Estonia and on Exercise Trident Juncture in Norway. We have perhaps not previously had those opportunities to train and to serve overseas, which are key to retention.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton and Jeff Smith
Monday 23rd October 2017

(6 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
Read Full debate Read Hansard Text Read Debate Ministerial Extracts
Jeff Smith Portrait Jeff Smith (Manchester, Withington) (Lab)
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

11. What assessment he has made of recent trends in the size of the Army.

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton Portrait The Minister for the Armed Forces (Mark Lancaster)
- Hansard - -

We are committed to maintaining the overall size of the armed forces, including an Army that is able to field a war-fighting division. While Army recruitment and retention remain challenging, over 8,000 people joined the regular Army last year and since April applications are over 20% higher compared with the same period last year.

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton Portrait Mark Lancaster
- Hansard - -

No, I do not. It is important to note that the Army is currently 95% manned. I do accept that there are challenges. Having probably the highest employment rate we have had in recent years does not help when it comes to recruiting to the Army. There is also, as we discussed earlier, the changing nature of Britain, which means we have to fight harder to make sure that all parts of society will join the Army. However, this is also about the offer, and I must say that when the Leader of the Opposition says he cannot see a situation where he would deploy the Army overseas, that is hardly a good recruiting tool to get young people who want to join the Army to do exactly that.

Jeff Smith Portrait Jeff Smith
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

The latest figures show that the Army is running at 6% under the number of personnel needed, with the gap growing. How understaffed do we need to be before the Secretary of State will put pressure on the Chancellor to lift the 1% pay cap to boost recruitment?

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton Portrait Mark Lancaster
- Hansard - -

The Army, as I say, is 95% recruited and quite capable of fulfilling all its commitments. I am pleased there will be some flexibility in how we apply pay—of course, we have the Armed Forces Pay Review Body, which sets it. It is important to have some flexibility so that we can attract people into the skill sets we are currently short of.