Debates between Lord Dodds of Duncairn and Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Social Security

Debate between Lord Dodds of Duncairn and Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick
Wednesday 14th September 2016

(7 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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It is for Sinn Féin to explain its own position. It is not for me to speak for it, especially when its Members do not come to this House. Certain Members are often seen about the corridors. They are here to collect their allowances—their political representation money and their constituency office allowances—but that is all they do; they do not take part in any other parliamentary processes. I will therefore leave it to them.

The reality had to dawn on people in Northern Ireland that we were facing the collapse of the political institutions. It is a bit like a local council in England or Wales, or anywhere else, being told, “Here’s your financial settlement—here’s what you’ve got to work within,” and the leading party there saying, “Sorry, we’re not going to accept that. We’re going to set budgets that are way beyond that, we’re going to just ignore the financial realities, we’re not going to make any compromises which will safeguard the most vulnerable”—

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Ritchie
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Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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No. The hon. Lady had plenty of time to put her arguments to the House, and the fact that she was unable to put any convincing arguments is her responsibility.

In terms of financial responsibility, serious parties of government—parties that are serious about running countries and being in government—have to take difficult decisions within the financial parameters that they are set, especially in a devolved Government. If we simply say, “We’re not going to do that—we demand that you give us more,” it eventually leads to collapse.

Let us remember that the people of Northern Ireland had their say—

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Ritchie
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Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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No, no—the hon. Lady has had her opportunity to speak, and I am not giving way.

The people of Northern Ireland have had their say. There was an election in May in which they delivered their verdict on the whole social security debacle and on how the DUP and other parties had performed. The SDLP and certain other parties had their worst ever result in Assembly elections. The DUP was returned with one of its best results ever and is back at the head of government in Northern Ireland. The people of Northern Ireland saw very clearly what was going on. They recognised that parties and politicians have to face up to their responsibilities. If they are not serious about that, they will be rejected at the polls.

I, too, welcome this order. I wish the DWP Minister, who has moved from the Treasury, well in his work. I hope that we come to a point where we do not need such legislation to come to the Floor of the House of Commons and can get back to dealing with it in the Northern Ireland Assembly.

EU Referendum: Timing

Debate between Lord Dodds of Duncairn and Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick
Tuesday 9th February 2016

(8 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Margaret Ritchie (South Down) (SDLP)
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Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that having elections to the devolved Administrations and the campaign for the European referendum running in parallel could obfuscate the issues and confuse them? Politicians in the devolved Administrations should concentrate on the principal issues of health and education, and working towards an evolving programme for government.

Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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Again, that illustrates the point. The hon. Lady and I may have different views on EU membership and so on, but we agree on the need for a full and comprehensive debate that is not caught up in the election campaigns for the devolved Administrations. I will discuss that in more detail shortly. .

Stormont

Debate between Lord Dodds of Duncairn and Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick
Monday 12th October 2015

(8 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Margaret Ritchie (South Down) (SDLP)
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I echo the comments of my hon. Friend the Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan) and congratulate the hon. Members for South Antrim (Danny Kinahan) and for Tewkesbury (Mr Robertson) on securing this debate on the political situation in Stormont.

The SDLP is committed to the talks process for the people of Northern Ireland. Our citizens have well and truly lost patience with the political situation in Stormont, with it hurtling from one crisis to the next because of the dysfunctional mismanagement by the two parties at the centre. The parties, and the British and Irish Governments, must commit to full and comprehensive outcomes.

Sinn Féin completely refuses to acknowledge the Chief Constable’s assessment of the possibility of paramilitary involvement in the murder of Kevin McGuigan in the Markets area of Belfast earlier this summer. There is also, of course, the failure of the DUP to work the institutions. Their approach of 10-minute Ministers going in and out has resulted in the public being sick, sore and tired of long waiting lists for healthcare. Our Minister for Health is a Minister for 10 minutes one day and then not a Minister for five days. That compounds an already difficult situation in that Department.

There is also a situation with renewable obligations for energy and renewable technologies in Northern Ireland. The people were told that they would last until the end of March 2017, but what the 10-minute Minister of Enterprise, Trade and Investment refused to tell them was that they were actually going to end in March 2016, thereby impacting on local industry and local capability, where there are enormous opportunities.

Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Ritchie
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No, because other people want to speak.

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Ritchie
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Maybe I will.

Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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Does the hon. Lady dissociate herself from and repudiate the recent words of her party leader, who referred to Roman Catholics in Northern Ireland as “taigs”?

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Ritchie
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I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his comments. I do not think that that is exactly what our party leader said.

Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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He did say it.

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Ritchie
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What I would ask is whether the DUP is fully up to power sharing, because that is the kernel or particular issue.

Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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You do not repudiate it.

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Ritchie
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I am not saying that.

European Union Referendum Bill

Debate between Lord Dodds of Duncairn and Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick
Tuesday 9th June 2015

(9 years ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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Yes, we certainly will. I detect across both sides of the House a desire to come together on some of the changes that have been referred to, such as purdah and the timing of the referendum date. I think there is room for people of goodwill to get together to ensure that we have a fair referendum that fairly addresses the concerns of the people, and that the decision made is reached on a fair basis.

In our view, the Prime Minister must deliver real and tangible changes to the European project and address the concerns that the people of the United Kingdom have with an ever-encroaching Europe, based on ever- closer political union. He must deliver substantial change in those areas that most concern people, including the issue of those coming to this country from other parts of the European Union. The previous speaker, the right hon. Member for Chesham and Amersham (Mrs Gillan), talked about areas such as Northern Ireland, Scotland and so on being featherbedded. When we have the debate, we will be able to show that the fishermen of County Down in Northern Ireland do not regard themselves as featherbedded. They have been put out of their work and their traditional activities by the EU. Given the extent of our contribution to the EU budget—far more than we get out—they will not recognise themselves as featherbedded.

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick Portrait Ms Margaret Ritchie (South Down) (SDLP)
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Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Dodds of Duncairn Portrait Mr Dodds
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I have to conclude because I do not have very much time left.

We will stand by our long-held principle that the people of the United Kingdom have too long been denied their democratic right. The case for a referendum is overwhelming, and I am glad it is now supported overwhelmingly in this House, but it is time, when we come to the vote, that we have a real choice. It must be one that is based on the Prime Minister delivering real, substantial change, if he is to have any chance of winning the referendum.