Verify: Digital Identity System Debate

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Department: Cabinet Office

Verify: Digital Identity System

Lord Campbell-Savours Excerpts
Monday 26th November 2018

(5 years, 5 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Young of Cookham Portrait Lord Young of Cookham
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I challenge the premise on which the noble Lord based his question. Verify was launched in 2016 and, as I said in my initial reply, now has 3 million subscribers who have completed 8 million transactions. I signed up to Verify over the weekend and, if noble Lords have not, I suggest that they make themselves familiar with this new and innovative service.

Lord Campbell-Savours Portrait Lord Campbell-Savours (Lab)
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My Lords, is not the simple truth that, following pressure from the Liberal Democrats in the coalition, Labour’s national identity card scheme, which would have dealt with this problem, was abolished? Is it not odd that it has finally dawned on the Government that identification is vital to protect against entitlement fraud? It has taken them a long time to learn that lesson.

Lord Young of Cookham Portrait Lord Young of Cookham
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Verify was started under the coalition Government—I think Nick Clegg was in charge of the Cabinet Office when it started—but there is a difference between providing a secure online identity, which Verify does, and an ID card which you have to carry with you. The key difference between Verify and an ID card system is that Verify is voluntary and the ID card was to be compulsory.