Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe
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(11 years, 6 months ago)
Lords Chamber Lord Wallace of Saltaire
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Wallace of Saltaire 
        
    
        
    
        The Government have considered everything, but that is not an idea that has led to enormous enthusiasm within government or, I suspect, within this House.
 Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe (Lab)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe (Lab) 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, is it not true that had the Government not taken an irrational decision, an ID card would now be being introduced? We would have been solving problems with registration because everybody would have been entitled to registration. They could have been checked for validity and they could have been voting. We would not have the problem to the same degree that we have with border control, immigration, the NHS, landlords and a whole range of different databases that have now had to be created by this Government. Will they not think again on that?
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            Lord Wallace of Saltaire 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, we have been through that debate over an extended period. The Government are not persuaded that the original ID card scheme was necessary. It would be extremely costly. As far as voting is concerned, the level of allegations of voting fraud and impersonation is remarkably low. There were in the order of 179 allegations of different sorts of electoral fraud last year, for example, which is within a range of confidence as to the problems we face.