Great British Energy Bill

Lord Ashcombe Excerpts

Committee stage
Wednesday 15th January 2025 Grand Committee

[Lord Hamilton of Epsom (Con)]

My Lords, I, too, speak in support of these amendments. It is definitely important that accountability is brought to bear here. Of course, one has the constant worry that the private sector is going to pick up all the low-hanging fruit, which is quite profitable, while GB Energy is going to be left with all of the much more speculative stuff, which will probably lose money for the taxpayer.

I want to refer in particular to subsection (2)(d) in the new clause to be inserted by Amendment 96 in the name of the noble Earl, Lord Russell, which refers to

“a just transition to green energy”.

I use that as a bit of a hook on which to return to the question I asked in Committee on Monday; I should have intervened and asked the Minister to answer before he sat down, but I had a problem at that stage, which is why I have given him advance notice today. I hope that the Minister will be able to answer my question for me because there is a dispute on our side. My noble friend Lord Fuller is a great exponent of green liquid hydrogen. Let us face it: if we could manufacture it effectively, it would be a bit of a silver bullet in solving many of these problems. But, at the same time, my noble friend Lord Roborough said that it will always be much too expensive to produce. I was slightly surprised by this because, like my noble friend Lord Fuller, I have always taken the view that the technology will develop as it goes along and the price will start to come down. It used to be the policy of the previous Government to support hydrogen; it is certainly supported by JCB.

[Lord Ashcombe (Con)]

I thank my noble friend for letting me speak. I wish to correct the record: it was actually me who described what my noble friend is describing, not my noble friend Lord Fuller.

[Lord Fuller (Con)]

Although I do of course wish to be associated with those remarks.