Compliance with the European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 2) Act 2019 Debate

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Department: Department for Exiting the European Union

Compliance with the European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 2) Act 2019

Lady Hermon Excerpts
Thursday 26th September 2019

(5 years, 2 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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James Duddridge Portrait James Duddridge
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I do not think I am sharing a secret: it is the Government’s intention to navigate their way around the Benn Act by getting a withdrawal agreement and a deal through the House of Commons. That is our plan A.

Lady Hermon Portrait Lady Hermon (North Down) (Ind)
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I have to tell the Minister that I am extremely concerned that he has indicated that it is acceptable to the Government and the Prime Minister, for whom he is speaking this morning, that no deal will be acceptable. Can I just remind the Minister of the very serious consequences of no deal for Northern Ireland? I should not need to remind him or, indeed, the Government. If there is any hardening of the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, it will incentivise dissident republicans, who are already attacking the Police Service of Northern Ireland, to commit even greater violence along the border. With that, I suspect there will be a backlash—certainly a reaction—from loyalists. I do not predict that with any pleasure at all, but this Government should be aware of the consequences of no deal in Northern Ireland.

Lady Hermon Portrait Lady Hermon
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It will also embolden—

Gregory Campbell Portrait Mr Campbell
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Outrageous.

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Lady Hermon Portrait Lady Hermon
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Thank you. It will embolden Sinn Féin to campaign for a border poll, to take Northern Ireland out of the United Kingdom into a united Ireland. The Government need to be extremely mindful, and for the Minister to imply that it is acceptable that we leave without a deal is totally unacceptable.

James Duddridge Portrait James Duddridge
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We want to leave with a deal, but no deal is a possibility. I am very aware of the concerns that the hon. Lady raised, and the Government are committed to the Belfast/Good Friday agreement. In fact, one of the first things I did as a Minister was go to Belfast and also down to visit the border and the people who live around it. In itself, turning up and looking around does not solve the problems, but I am very aware and consistently bear these things in mind when looking at negotiations, particularly those that are currently happening in relation to the Northern Ireland border. That will continue to be very important in the Government’s machinations.