Debates between Karl Turner and Rory Stewart during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Privatised Probation System

Debate between Karl Turner and Rory Stewart
Monday 4th March 2019

(5 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Karl Turner Portrait Karl Turner
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This situation is indeed shocking. [Laughter.] I do wonder: either very senior civil servants follow the right hon. Member for Epsom and Ewell (Chris Grayling) around giving him really bad advice, or he is in fact just incredibly incompetent. Which is it?

Rory Stewart Portrait Rory Stewart
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I look at this very seriously.

Karl Turner Portrait Karl Turner
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It is very serious.

Rory Stewart Portrait Rory Stewart
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Yes, it is. Big lessons need to be drawn from it, not just for the purpose of probation reforms but for the purpose of any other reforms that we make in government. One of the big issues concerned is our ability to predict the consequences of large-scale system change, and in particular to predict the shifts in caseload. As the National Audit Office points out, there was a modelling of a 2% shift, and the reality was a 48% shift. Drilling down into how that advice was given and responded to is one of the ways in which we can draw those lessons.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Karl Turner and Rory Stewart
Tuesday 21st November 2017

(7 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Rory Stewart Portrait Rory Stewart
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Badakhshan is of course a region of Afghanistan, so interference in Badakhshan from Pakistan would be a serious issue. My hon. Friend may perhaps be referring to Balochistan, where we continue to raise reports of human rights abuses with the Government of Pakistan.

Karl Turner Portrait Karl Turner (Kingston upon Hull East) (Lab)
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My constituent Laura Plummer has been imprisoned in Hurghada, Egypt, for several weeks, having taken Tramadol with her to help to manage her boyfriend’s back pain. She might be tried on Christmas day. We make no criticism of the Egyptian authorities, but will the Foreign Secretary continue to make representations to them to make it known that this was a very naive young woman who has made a very bad mistake, but has not in her mind committed a crime?