Computer Games Industry

Justin Tomlinson Excerpts

Wednesday 29th June 2011 Westminster Hall

[Jim McGovern]

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. The Government seem to be saying that differences in corporation tax and research and development tax credits are good enough to support the computer games industry. My view and that of TIGA, the association that represents the computer games industry, is that a one-size-fits-all policy is not good enough and there should be a specific solution for specific industries, such as the computer games industry.

The one policy difference between the UK and our competitors is a scheme of tax incentives for games developers. Canada offers tax breaks of 17.5% to 37.5% on labour expenditure. As I said, Ireland is investigating how best to implement tax breaks, and Pennsylvania is offering a 25% tax break, which is similar to that offered by the other 16 US states that offer such support. It is clear that the UK is being outdone by those tax regimes. That is why I am calling on the UK Government to introduce a tax incentive scheme that rivals those other countries’ schemes.

As the Minister will be aware, the Scottish Affairs Committee investigated the current state and benefits of the computer games industry in Scotland. Its conclusion on tax breaks was clear. It said that there were compelling reasons to introduce tax breaks and that the UK Government should begin a consultation process to see how best to achieve that. That is additional to recent calls by major international developers. Three of the largest—Activision Blizzard, THQ and Ubisoft—have publicly stated that tax breaks in the UK would make them much more likely to invest here. There are many reasons why they do so now.

[Justin Tomlinson (North Swindon) (Con)]

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way on that point in this very important debate. Has there been an estimate of the long-term tax revenue that could be generated if the UK’s share of the market was to grow through the use of tax incentives?

[Jim McGovern]

There has been an estimate. TIGA reckons that tax breaks would help 2,500 new jobs to be created and would maintain and protect 3,000 current jobs.

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[John Penrose]

The hon. Gentleman is quite right to say that there is a broader aspect to the matter. I was using “Grand Theft Auto” as a quick example rather than a widely based covering comment.

As for the numbers cited by the hon. Gentleman, I say this. Businessmen should always face many more ideas that would produce a positive return on their investment than they can afford. That is a fact of life in any industry, and certainly in the creative industries. There might be 100 options that could increase the bottom line, but they will not be able to afford to use them; they will not have the cash, the people or resources in general. That is the case with the Government. We inherited a terrible fiscal position, and the country’s balance sheet was in a very bad state. There are all sorts of things that might create a positive return, but we physically do not have the cash for them.

One of the major points of difference between the hon. Gentleman and me in our approach to macro-economics in general and to the industry—and also on a micro-economic basis—is that I am unsure where we would find the money to do some of the things that he suggests, such as tax breaks here and there. I respectfully suggest that he will need his own Treasury Front-Bench team to sign up to what he suggests. I suspect that those Front Benchers will be leery of doing so, because they would then have to explain which bits of other budgets, such as health or education, they would cut in order to release money for this, which taxes they would raise to pay for the additional tax breaks, or how they would persuade the financial markets, on the day that Greece is voting for its austerity package, that we should be borrowing more money for this, that or the other. This is an essential piece of macro-economic prudence, and I suspect it is a fundamental difference of approach between us. I understand where he is coming from, but I am trying to explain where we are.

[Justin Tomlinson]

I understand 100% the point the Minister makes about the constraints in the financial sector. However, he also referred to the fact that this is a growing market and there is an opportunity. Can we at least have an assurance that the Government are continuing to consider ways to support the industry and that, as and when opportunities arise, they will be considered?

[John Penrose]

I can absolutely make that assurance. I would like to go back to some of the things that we are already doing, which I hope will bring a significant benefit to this industry and others.