All 2 Debates between Jonathan Edwards and Lord Davies of Gower

Draft Wales Bill

Debate between Jonathan Edwards and Lord Davies of Gower
Wednesday 3rd February 2016

(8 years, 9 months ago)

General Committees
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Lord Davies of Gower Portrait Byron Davies
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It is well known that I think that the people of Wales should have had a referendum on that issue, and it is in the public domain that I have made that known to the Government.

Jonathan Edwards Portrait Jonathan Edwards
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Since the hon. Gentleman has been elected, he has voted for the devolution of full income tax powers for Scotland and for devolving corporation tax in its entirety to Northern Ireland, so why is he so opposed to empowering the people of Wales with fiscal powers?

Lord Davies of Gower Portrait Byron Davies
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I have just answered that point. After seeing at first hand the Welsh Government at work, I do not have faith in their competency—it is that simple.

My final point is about policing, an area in which I have some experience. I am delighted that we will not devolve policing to Wales, because it is a very complex matter. It is about complex intelligence systems and cross-border complexities. I have always been of the opinion that bigger is better in policing. I am in favour of regional policing and we need to consider that issue in another forum, but I am delighted that it is not being considered in the Bill.

Draft Wales Bill

Debate between Jonathan Edwards and Lord Davies of Gower
Wednesday 3rd February 2016

(8 years, 9 months ago)

General Committees
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Lord Davies of Gower Portrait Byron Davies
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It is well known that I think that the people of Wales should have had a referendum on that issue, and it is in the public domain that I have made that known to the Government.

Jonathan Edwards Portrait Jonathan Edwards
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Since the hon. Gentleman has been elected, he has voted for the devolution of full income tax powers for Scotland and for devolving corporation tax in its entirety to Northern Ireland, so why is he so opposed to empowering the people of Wales with fiscal powers?

Lord Davies of Gower Portrait Byron Davies
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I have just answered that point. After seeing at first hand the Welsh Government at work, I do not have faith in their competency—it is that simple.

My final point is about policing, an area in which I have some experience. I am delighted that we will not devolve policing to Wales, because it is a very complex matter. It is about complex intelligence systems and cross-border complexities. I have always been of the opinion that bigger is better in policing. I am in favour of regional policing and we need to consider that issue in another forum, but I am delighted that it is not being considered in the Bill.