Budget Resolutions and Economic Situation Debate

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Department: HM Treasury

Budget Resolutions and Economic Situation

Ian C. Lucas Excerpts
Wednesday 19th March 2014

(10 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ian Swales Portrait Ian Swales (Redcar) (LD)
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This Budget represents another step in dealing with the economic mess left by the Labour party. Everybody at home knows that if they live on borrowings and max out their credit card, they will one day have to cut their standard of living. It is completely disingenuous of the Labour party to pretend otherwise. The Liberal Democrats want a stronger economy and a fairer society. We are proud that our No. 1 manifesto commitment to cut income tax for 25 million people by raising the threshold to £10,000 will be met next month, and that the Chancellor has gone further in this Budget by raising the figure to £10,500.

We hear a lot from the Opposition about tax cuts for millionaires, and they are now complaining about tax rises. Since April 2010, millionaires have paid higher taxes on their income, on their capital gains, on their pension contributions, on their spending and on their private jets, and they have had to engage in less tax avoidance. We know that the Chancellor in the previous Labour Government, the right hon. Member for Edinburgh South West (Mr Darling), put the higher rate of income tax up from 40%—they kept it at that level throughout their time—to 50% on 6 April 2010. That was an important day for two reasons: first, the higher rate went up to 50%; and secondly, Parliament was dissolved. Labour Members were on the Government Benches only for a few hours while the top rate was 50%, so we should not take any lessons from them.

All the Budget documents show that the rich are paying a lot more. [Interruption.] The hon. Member for Wrexham (Ian Lucas) shouts from a sedentary position about VAT, but VAT is on spending, and I have news for him: millionaires spend the most, and they therefore pay the most VAT.

Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas (Wrexham) (Lab)
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When the hon. Gentleman sought the votes of the people of Redcar, he assured them that he would not support a rise in VAT, so why did he do so when he went in with the Tories?

Ian Swales Portrait Ian Swales
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When I stood in Redcar, I had not seen the note left by the then Chief Secretary to the Treasury, the right hon. Member for Birmingham, Hodge Hill (Mr Byrne), saying that there was no money left.

I am pleased that the Government will give further support to apprenticeships. There have been 1.5 million of them in the country, with more than 4,000 in my constituency, and I welcome today’s news about an extra 100,000 apprenticeships. I welcome the cut in beer duty, and I pay tribute to my hon.—he ought to be right hon. one day—Friend the Member for Leeds North West (Greg Mulholland) for his relentless campaigning on the issue. I also welcome the cut in fuel duty, which will help hard-working people all over the country. We would certainly have paid a lot more under the Labour party’s plans.

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Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas (Wrexham) (Lab)
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It is a real pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Chesham and Amersham (Mrs Gillan). As always, she has made a powerful case on behalf of her constituents.

In 2010, the Chancellor had what he called an emergency Budget. There was in fact no emergency. His predecessor’s Budget had already set out the deficit reduction strategy, and that policy was largely supported at the time by the Liberal Democrats. However, the present Chancellor—supported by the Liberal Democrats, who preferred Government to consistency of policy—made a choice and promised in 2010 that he would eliminate the deficit by 2015. On his own terms, he has failed. Today’s Budget is a confirmation of that central fact.

In 2010, when the economy needed stimulus and support, this Government provided neither. Instead, we and our constituents have endured four years of mistaken economic policy, which has resulted in most of the people I represent being £1,600 a year worse off than they were in 2010. Yet the Chancellor stood at the Dispatch Box today and expected plaudits. Following the delayed return of growth in the economy, the Government parties exude an air of complacency, but that is at variance with the views of most of the country and certainly of most of the people I represent in Wrexham.

The Government imposed substantial increases in VAT in 2010, contrary to the assurances given before the general election by both parties. The immediate result was that money was taken out of local economies and paid directly to the Government, suppressing demand in the retail and construction sectors. The long-term result has been a reduction in business activity. Lack of demand locally has been exacerbated by the failure of investment in local business. This Government’s failure to tackle the issue of business investment endures to this day, and is a consequence of their fundamental failure to implement meaningful reform of the banking sector. We heard nothing about that today.

In the early months of this Government, they talked a good game. They even set up an inquiry into high pay, although only in the public sector, not in the private sector. They have done nothing about the issue, however. We hear the occasional bleat from the Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills, but the coalition Government have done nothing.

Again and again, Wrexham businesses tell me about the failure of the banks to provide adequate investment. Based as the banks are in the square mile, and focused as they are on financial services, that is not surprising. Why should those institutions understand the modern manufacturing and retail economy that is Wrexham, when none of their meaningful decisions is made by those who live in our community or have any knowledge of it?

Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas
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I will give way to the hon. Gentleman; I know that he takes an interest in this subject.

Guy Opperman Portrait Guy Opperman
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The hon. Gentleman must surely accept that it was a mistake for Labour to vote against the provisions in the Financial Services Bill on 23 April 2012. Those provisions would have introduced greater competition, greater choice and a greater degree of local banking.

Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas
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The fundamental mistake was the demutualisation of organisations such as Northern Rock by the Conservative Government in 1986 and the years thereafter. The hon. Gentleman should be arguing against such decisions, so that we can start creating institutions like local building societies again.

Our current banking system is not the only model of banking. In Germany, the Sparkassen model was affected much less than most economies by the 2007 recession. Local banks known as Sparkassen operate within geographically restricted areas and provide both retail and business banking there. Notwithstanding the existence of ordinary multinational banks, over 20% of ordinary local residents choose to invest in their local Sparkassen.

I welcome what the Chancellor said today about ISAs, but I believe that people would invest in local banks and institutions that supported the local economy and created jobs for young people. We want to see that happening, which is why we support the development of regional banks. Ever since the Conservative Government started to demutualise in the 1980s, destroying institutions such as Northern Rock, the Leeds Permanent building society and the Halifax building society, the move has been ever more towards centralising investment by the banks in this country. Local economies have suffered as a result.

Business investment has not recovered since 2007, and the City still dominates the economy. The growth that we are seeing in the UK is growth of the kind that led to the problem in the first place. We can all see the train coming down the track. We know what kind of a recovery this is, and we need to do something about it. The people I represent are not benefiting from the recovery at all. Women in my constituency are still earning less than they were in 2010, and men there have also seen a reduction in their incomes since that time.

Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns (Vale of Glamorgan) (Con)
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas
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I must make some progress; I have a particular point that I want to make.

This Government are not even addressing those issues. They do not seem to understand that they exist. Nothing that the Chancellor said today will help the people I represent. They are fed up with inequality in this country, and with the massive support that is given to those in the City and those who earn millions of pounds a year, who are so remote from the lives of my constituents that they can have no understanding of how the rest of the country works.

Believe it or not, there was a time when the Prime Minister supported a move towards greater equality. He quoted “The Spirit Level” in 2009, before he was elected, when he was trying to present a positive face for the Conservative party for the election. Those days are long gone.

We need to take responsibility ourselves. Inequality is the issue of the time. I am a member of the Nationwide building society.

Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian Lucas
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I will not give way; I have a particular point to make.

The chief executive of the Nationwide building society was paid £2.3 million last year. I have written to him asking him to support a motion within the society that his salary should be no more than 75 times the rate of the lowest paid employee in the organisation. This is a mutual society that we should all support. He has refused, and I as a member, acting as an individual, intend to present a resolution to the annual conference of the Nationwide building society. A mutual organisation should respect the principles of mutuality and should accept that it is not appropriate for investors’ money to be used for that level of executive pay. If people want executives paid at that level, they can go and bank with Barclays. When I shifted my account to the Nationwide building society, I did so because I believed in mutuals. I want my chief executive’s pay, like that of the chief executive of the John Lewis Partnership, who operates precisely on those terms and has been in his position for many years, to be linked to that of other employees in the organisation.

I am looking for support. Members in all parts of the House can join my campaign. I need 500 signatures by 4 April, and I hope the Chancellor of the Exchequer will consider joining it, if he is a member of the Nationwide building society. We need to ensure that the people we represent know that we understand that this country faces a cost of living crisis and that individuals are worse off now, and that we will not put up with increased executive pay of millions of pounds for people who are not supporting the local economies in our constituencies.