Graham Stringer
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(15Â years ago)
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Yes, I certainly will. In the case of Greece, it is perfectly clear that, to put it bluntly, misrepresentations âand even liesâwere contained in the statistical base on which it was brought in. Indeed, even the present German Chancellor has criticised the way in which it was allowed to come in when it did.
In his speech, Mr Barroso said:
âThe conclusion I draw is crystal clearâThe only right way to stop the negative cycle and to strengthen the euro is to deepen integration, namely within the Euro area, based on the Community method.â
He went on to say:
âWhat we need now is a new, unifying impulseââun nouveau moment fĂ©dĂ©rateurââ.
Let us get this clearâhe means a new moment of federal fervour, although that is my translation. He continued by saying,
âletâs not be afraid of the word, moment fĂ©dĂ©rateur is indispensable.â
He went on:
âIt has become clear that we need an even greater integration of our economic and budgetary policies.â
Do not get the impression that he is referring exclusively to the proposed fiscal union. His ambitions extend to the whole European Union. This is a call to arms by the Eurofanaticsâlet us be in no doubt about that.
On eurobonds, Mr Barroso, having said that we need even greater integration of our economic and budgetary policies, confirms that the Commission, again, on behalf of the European Union,
âwill soon present options for the introduction of Eurobondsâ,
on which, as it happens, the German constitutional court has cast grave aspersions. Indeed, I understand that the President of the German Republic has also said that he regards them as illegal. I could spend a lot of time going into that, but I do not need to for the moment. Mr Barroso said:
âSome of these options could be implemented within the terms of the current Treatyââ
that is the abominable Lisbon treaty, which we accepted after we had opposed it as a party, united together, and called for a referendum that we never gotâ
âand others would require Treaty change.â
I wanted to draw all those matters to the attention of my colleagues, because they are the latest emanations from the European Commission. This is what it is about and, as we speak, none of it is being reported.
The hon. Gentleman is describing something that is not surprising; we are getting milk from the milkman in terms of the statements that he has read. Does he, like me, find it depressing that the Front-Bench representatives of both main parties argue for less democracy, rather than more, in the eurozone?
That is absolutely the case, and it is very depressing. The whole objective of the treaty arrangement, from its inception and the days of Jean Monnet onwardsâand as evidenced by recent treaties, including the Lisbon treatyâis essentially undemocratic.
Implementing the measure would create a situation in which people in this country, who in general elections have voted through their own free choice at the ballot box for policies, were denied those policies because the proposals brought forward by majority voting in the European Union are inimical to growth and deficit reduction.
I shall explain why it is so fundamentally wrong for the Prime Minister, the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the coalition Government as a wholeâunder the baleful influence of the Liberal Democratsâto advocate the idea of a fiscal union. For reasons that I will explain, fiscal union is immensely damaging to the national interest and our economy.